The strange behavior of Greg Pippin aka ABC
Nov 5, 2013 15:24:27 GMT
killerchaser and clarionclad like this
Post by jkearns on Nov 5, 2013 15:24:27 GMT
This is a textbook example of how not to act when there's a killer in town
On December 9, real estate agents from a Dublin, California real estate agency were holding “open house” at several area houses for sale. At around noon a white male, approximately five foot ten, brown hair,brown eyes, medium to thin build, thirty, thirty-five years old, arrived at a San Ramon open house. The agent, Barbara Mays, met the person at the door.“I’m Greg Pippin, I work for a San Jose property investment firm and I was just in the neighborhood and noticed the sign on the lawn. I’ve been looking for a house for a friend and would like to look around,”the man greeted Mays.“Come on in,” she replied. “Do you have a business card?” “I don’t have any on me,” the pockmarked visitor remarked as he pulled a small ringed notebook from his dark blue jacket pocket. She watched as the man walked through the house, checking window locks, door locks, and periodically writing in his book. After about thirty minutes, the man left stating he could offer $68,000 for the house listed at $90,000. For some reason, she shivered when the man left and after closing the door she watched out the window as he got into an orange BMW and drove off
. At approximately 3:00 p.m., Jean Hughs, an agent holding open house at a Dublin, California home, answered a knock on the door and greeted the pockmarked man standing on the front steps.“Hi, I’m Greg Pippin, I work for a San Jose firm and just happened to be in the area and saw your sign. I’m looking for a house for my brother and sister-in-law who live in Concord and would just like to look around,” the man said and stepped inside the house.“What firm do you work for?” she asked.“It’s a property investment firm. Sun Shine Investments,” he answered. After approximately twenty minutes, the man entered the backyard and seemed to be checking the adjoining properties and the side gate’slock. He offered $63,000 for the $75,000 home and then drove off in an orange BMW. Hughs felt a sense of relief when he drove off. At 5:30 p.m., a pockmarked man knocked on the door of a Silver-gate Drive, Dublin, home that still had the “open house” sign in theyard.“Are you a realtor?” the stranger asked the owner. No, the agent left. She left the sign up because she’s coming back tomorrow,” the owner answered “Your yard looks good,” the stranger remarked as the owner and his attractive wife stood in the doorway. Without giving a name the man drove off in an orange BMW.
The owner, himself sixty-two, stated that they had not done business recently in the San Ramon/Dublin area and that no one by the name of Greg Pippin had ever worked for him.In the afternoon I contacted the State Realty Board in Sacramentoto see if a Greg Pippin was licensed as a real estate agent. Four Pippins were located, each with a different first name. Also, six realty and property investment firms beginning with the name “Sun” were listed forthe San Jose area. After running a driver’s license check on the four Pippins, each was eliminated by contact being made by other California law enforcement officers.
I met with the owner of the Sun Shine Investment Corporation in San Jose. Te owner, a nuclear physicist for General Electric, knew of no one by the name of Pippin and no one that fit Pippin’s description.His employees, older and bigger than Pippin’s description, were also physicists with no contact to the Sacramento area
A white male around thirty years old was standing on the steps. He looked nervous and was looking at the ground. He didn’t say anything and she asked him in and gave him a cup of coffee. He told her that his name was Greg Pippin, walked to the backyard, and jumped up on the fence in the corner and looked at everything in the backyard.Gayley felt real nervous watching him as he entered the house and went upstairs. When he came down he said he was hot and took off his red down jacket. That seemed strange to her as it wasn’t warm in the house. He stood and drank his coffee. She didn’t offer him more as she didn’t want him to stay. She watched him go to the front window and pull and push on it. He said something about the house not being looked after and that he would have to put a lot of money in it.She asked him again to repeat his name. He seemed irritated at her request; however repeated it for her and said he was a real estate agentfor Sun Shine Investment in San Jose. She asked him how he had found the house and he said he had seen the sign. This was strange to her,as the house was not on a through street and the sign in the yard had fallen and she had not set it back up. She meant to earlier; however, she was too nervous while he was there to leave the house to stand it up.She felt he was not looking at the right things for someone who wanted to buy a house.
ran a history on ABC and learned that he had a speeding ticket in Riverside County in 1963 and had applied for a real estate license in 1975 in addition to the one arrest that Branum had discovered. A check with the State Real Estate Board showed that ABC was licensed and did work for a San Jose development company. A copy of his fingerprints, taken at the time of his arrest, was taken to the lab forcomparison to those taken at the rape scenes.On March 6th, I contacted ABC by phone at his residence and setup a meeting for 1:00 p.m. at his office. After explaining the reason for our contact with him, ABC stated he was looking at houses in the area for his brother who lived in Con-cord. He had gone to several open houses that he had seen advertisedin the newspaper. ABC was five feet ten inches tall, one hundred and thirty-five pounds an d wore a size ten shoe. He had worked in San Jose for the last four years. He had a brother in San Ramon as well as the one in Concord and had no contacts with Sacramento. He had been attending Foothill College in Los Altos since the spring of 1965, having registeredfor all four semesters in 1977 and both winter and spring in 1978. ABC agreed to chew on the gauze pad for the saliva sample. He did not know his blood type, however, agreed to call me if he couldfind it out. As I was leaving he stated he had a blood condition and did have blood work done in 1960 in Wisconsin where he was born.I took the saliva sample to the Lab for secretor status testing
On March 12th, the results from ABC’s lab request was returned home. ABC was a non-secretor. Although his fingerprints did not matchany of those from previous rape scenes, ABC was still a viable candidate for our serial rapist.
On March 22nd I was contacted by ABC.“I remembered after I talked to you. I had blood work done in 1961 at Columbia Hospital in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I told you I had a blood disease and they were the ones who worked on me,” he stated. “Ilived on North 51st Street in Milwaukee at the time.”I called information and got the phone number of the hospital and called the medical records department. ABC had a blood test and was determined to be O Negative. All other information agreed with the information I had on ABC. After three months, two hypnosis sessions, composites, car stops, help from the L.A.P.D., North Hollywood P.D., and hundreds of phone calls, ABC was eliminated as an EAR suspect.
well unfortunattely this guy at the time was around 36 years old at time Which puts him to old in my opinion for EAR thats cause i lean tward a younger EAR BUT!!! If i was ever to try to make a case for older EAR only two things stick in my mind One the level of maturity in his planning prowling and escaping sometimes seemed like he had a older mans experience more so then just a kid whose a few years out of teens Also the theory he quit cause age well this guys around more that right age to make that more viable theory
But this guys behavior suspicious as hell i mean how many realtors (not buyers) realtors give a fake name?? i mean thats his line of work!! Also with his blood condition i bet dogs would react same way I think finding out if this guys dead or alive is important..if dead how
On December 9, real estate agents from a Dublin, California real estate agency were holding “open house” at several area houses for sale. At around noon a white male, approximately five foot ten, brown hair,brown eyes, medium to thin build, thirty, thirty-five years old, arrived at a San Ramon open house. The agent, Barbara Mays, met the person at the door.“I’m Greg Pippin, I work for a San Jose property investment firm and I was just in the neighborhood and noticed the sign on the lawn. I’ve been looking for a house for a friend and would like to look around,”the man greeted Mays.“Come on in,” she replied. “Do you have a business card?” “I don’t have any on me,” the pockmarked visitor remarked as he pulled a small ringed notebook from his dark blue jacket pocket. She watched as the man walked through the house, checking window locks, door locks, and periodically writing in his book. After about thirty minutes, the man left stating he could offer $68,000 for the house listed at $90,000. For some reason, she shivered when the man left and after closing the door she watched out the window as he got into an orange BMW and drove off
. At approximately 3:00 p.m., Jean Hughs, an agent holding open house at a Dublin, California home, answered a knock on the door and greeted the pockmarked man standing on the front steps.“Hi, I’m Greg Pippin, I work for a San Jose firm and just happened to be in the area and saw your sign. I’m looking for a house for my brother and sister-in-law who live in Concord and would just like to look around,” the man said and stepped inside the house.“What firm do you work for?” she asked.“It’s a property investment firm. Sun Shine Investments,” he answered. After approximately twenty minutes, the man entered the backyard and seemed to be checking the adjoining properties and the side gate’slock. He offered $63,000 for the $75,000 home and then drove off in an orange BMW. Hughs felt a sense of relief when he drove off. At 5:30 p.m., a pockmarked man knocked on the door of a Silver-gate Drive, Dublin, home that still had the “open house” sign in theyard.“Are you a realtor?” the stranger asked the owner. No, the agent left. She left the sign up because she’s coming back tomorrow,” the owner answered “Your yard looks good,” the stranger remarked as the owner and his attractive wife stood in the doorway. Without giving a name the man drove off in an orange BMW.
The owner, himself sixty-two, stated that they had not done business recently in the San Ramon/Dublin area and that no one by the name of Greg Pippin had ever worked for him.In the afternoon I contacted the State Realty Board in Sacramentoto see if a Greg Pippin was licensed as a real estate agent. Four Pippins were located, each with a different first name. Also, six realty and property investment firms beginning with the name “Sun” were listed forthe San Jose area. After running a driver’s license check on the four Pippins, each was eliminated by contact being made by other California law enforcement officers.
I met with the owner of the Sun Shine Investment Corporation in San Jose. Te owner, a nuclear physicist for General Electric, knew of no one by the name of Pippin and no one that fit Pippin’s description.His employees, older and bigger than Pippin’s description, were also physicists with no contact to the Sacramento area
A white male around thirty years old was standing on the steps. He looked nervous and was looking at the ground. He didn’t say anything and she asked him in and gave him a cup of coffee. He told her that his name was Greg Pippin, walked to the backyard, and jumped up on the fence in the corner and looked at everything in the backyard.Gayley felt real nervous watching him as he entered the house and went upstairs. When he came down he said he was hot and took off his red down jacket. That seemed strange to her as it wasn’t warm in the house. He stood and drank his coffee. She didn’t offer him more as she didn’t want him to stay. She watched him go to the front window and pull and push on it. He said something about the house not being looked after and that he would have to put a lot of money in it.She asked him again to repeat his name. He seemed irritated at her request; however repeated it for her and said he was a real estate agentfor Sun Shine Investment in San Jose. She asked him how he had found the house and he said he had seen the sign. This was strange to her,as the house was not on a through street and the sign in the yard had fallen and she had not set it back up. She meant to earlier; however, she was too nervous while he was there to leave the house to stand it up.She felt he was not looking at the right things for someone who wanted to buy a house.
ran a history on ABC and learned that he had a speeding ticket in Riverside County in 1963 and had applied for a real estate license in 1975 in addition to the one arrest that Branum had discovered. A check with the State Real Estate Board showed that ABC was licensed and did work for a San Jose development company. A copy of his fingerprints, taken at the time of his arrest, was taken to the lab forcomparison to those taken at the rape scenes.On March 6th, I contacted ABC by phone at his residence and setup a meeting for 1:00 p.m. at his office. After explaining the reason for our contact with him, ABC stated he was looking at houses in the area for his brother who lived in Con-cord. He had gone to several open houses that he had seen advertisedin the newspaper. ABC was five feet ten inches tall, one hundred and thirty-five pounds an d wore a size ten shoe. He had worked in San Jose for the last four years. He had a brother in San Ramon as well as the one in Concord and had no contacts with Sacramento. He had been attending Foothill College in Los Altos since the spring of 1965, having registeredfor all four semesters in 1977 and both winter and spring in 1978. ABC agreed to chew on the gauze pad for the saliva sample. He did not know his blood type, however, agreed to call me if he couldfind it out. As I was leaving he stated he had a blood condition and did have blood work done in 1960 in Wisconsin where he was born.I took the saliva sample to the Lab for secretor status testing
On March 12th, the results from ABC’s lab request was returned home. ABC was a non-secretor. Although his fingerprints did not matchany of those from previous rape scenes, ABC was still a viable candidate for our serial rapist.
On March 22nd I was contacted by ABC.“I remembered after I talked to you. I had blood work done in 1961 at Columbia Hospital in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I told you I had a blood disease and they were the ones who worked on me,” he stated. “Ilived on North 51st Street in Milwaukee at the time.”I called information and got the phone number of the hospital and called the medical records department. ABC had a blood test and was determined to be O Negative. All other information agreed with the information I had on ABC. After three months, two hypnosis sessions, composites, car stops, help from the L.A.P.D., North Hollywood P.D., and hundreds of phone calls, ABC was eliminated as an EAR suspect.
well unfortunattely this guy at the time was around 36 years old at time Which puts him to old in my opinion for EAR thats cause i lean tward a younger EAR BUT!!! If i was ever to try to make a case for older EAR only two things stick in my mind One the level of maturity in his planning prowling and escaping sometimes seemed like he had a older mans experience more so then just a kid whose a few years out of teens Also the theory he quit cause age well this guys around more that right age to make that more viable theory
But this guys behavior suspicious as hell i mean how many realtors (not buyers) realtors give a fake name?? i mean thats his line of work!! Also with his blood condition i bet dogs would react same way I think finding out if this guys dead or alive is important..if dead how