Writer whose style of poetry resembles "Excitement's Crave"
Apr 21, 2018 21:24:56 GMT
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Post by rkz on Apr 21, 2018 21:24:56 GMT
Hello -
I recently came across a fragment of a poem by this writer, Don MacIver; the fragment I read strongly hearkened back to the style, tone, and overall "feel" of "Excitement's Crave." I found a book of his poetry from 2011 ("A Touch of Rose") and a few of the poems in there share a lot of similarities with "EC."
Take a look - and pay close attention to the poems "For All that Inspires" and "Not Enough Heroes" on pages 40 and 41, respectively.
www.slideshare.net/DonMacIverRPAWriterE/a-touch-of-rose-book-proof-9049079
And then read this analysis of "EC" on this Reddit thread:
www.reddit.com/r/EARONS/comments/6fyeh3/excitements_crave_is_a_terrible_poem/
Delving into both links back-to-back gives the reader an idea of how the style of "EC" and MacIver's style are quite similar.
Both use outdated-sounding, purposefully dense, and florid language in order to convey "poetic-ness," and both end up sounding like they're trying to sound smarter than they actually are. It's obvious that both the author of "EC" and MacIver are addicted to "big" words and long sentences; you get the sense that both authors want to impress the reader with their sensitivity and extensive vocabulary - except that both writers end up falling short because they make amateurish stylistic errors like using verbs as nouns ("Crave" is a verb that the author, for some reason, uses as a noun, and in the very title of the poem; unlikely that that is a conscious choice, it's more likely that such misuse is more a product of ignorance or pretention).
Both use archaic-sounding meter. The stilted, long-lined, trochaic form of "EC" matches up rhythmically and stylistically with MacIver's poems. The stanzas in both "EC" and MacIver's poems are four lines each, and they all hit the same cadences. In a few of MacIver's poems, it almost reads like he was using "EC" as his formal model. If you read "EC" out loud, then read "For All That Inspires," the latter feels like an extension of the former. The syllabic structure and the places where the accents fall sound almost like products of the same mind.
In terms of subject matter, both poets have chosen very weighty topics. They dwell on society, the fate of the species in general, an individual's worth to others and to the whole of humanity, etc. Neither "EC"'s author nor MacIver bother themselves with trifling matters of the mundane; instead they grapple with the "big" issues, and both end up sounding grandiose and puffed up as a result. There are section of MacIver's book that deal with love and sexuality and other subjects, but the section of the book that contains the poems that track with "EC" in certain ways is devoted to those weightier, other-focused ideas.
MacIver doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor, while the author of "EC" does (however macabre). "EC" rhymes, while most of MacIver's poems do not (although rhythmically, they follow the same kind of ABAB ABAB, eight syllables to the line cadence of "EC;" the only seeming difference is the lack of rhymes).
Word choices, as mentioned above, are VERY similar. A few lines from MacIver's poems almost uncannily sound like something from the same author of "EC." ""Forging ramparts against disregard," "Thoughts linger now on life's consequence" (Note the way the author denotes possession in that line: a "consequence" that belongs to "life" is similar (to me, anyway) of the idea of a "crave" belonging to "excitement.")
In the poem "A Poet's Place," on page 51, the author even muses dreamily on the "place" of the poet in society, in the same way that the author of "EC" muses on the "place" of "All those mortal's surviving birth." Both poems discuss how society places worth on the individual.
Both poets are really not very good. (Sorry if you're reading this, Mr. MacIver!) The poetry of both parties scans like pretentious high school poetry to me.
Anyways, if you read them back to back, "EC" and MacIver's poems seem very similar.
EDIT: I am not accusing Don MacIver of being EAR. We don't even know if EAR wrote "Excitement's Crave." I just thought that the similarities, especially when read out loud, are interesting.
I recently came across a fragment of a poem by this writer, Don MacIver; the fragment I read strongly hearkened back to the style, tone, and overall "feel" of "Excitement's Crave." I found a book of his poetry from 2011 ("A Touch of Rose") and a few of the poems in there share a lot of similarities with "EC."
Take a look - and pay close attention to the poems "For All that Inspires" and "Not Enough Heroes" on pages 40 and 41, respectively.
www.slideshare.net/DonMacIverRPAWriterE/a-touch-of-rose-book-proof-9049079
And then read this analysis of "EC" on this Reddit thread:
www.reddit.com/r/EARONS/comments/6fyeh3/excitements_crave_is_a_terrible_poem/
Delving into both links back-to-back gives the reader an idea of how the style of "EC" and MacIver's style are quite similar.
Both use outdated-sounding, purposefully dense, and florid language in order to convey "poetic-ness," and both end up sounding like they're trying to sound smarter than they actually are. It's obvious that both the author of "EC" and MacIver are addicted to "big" words and long sentences; you get the sense that both authors want to impress the reader with their sensitivity and extensive vocabulary - except that both writers end up falling short because they make amateurish stylistic errors like using verbs as nouns ("Crave" is a verb that the author, for some reason, uses as a noun, and in the very title of the poem; unlikely that that is a conscious choice, it's more likely that such misuse is more a product of ignorance or pretention).
Both use archaic-sounding meter. The stilted, long-lined, trochaic form of "EC" matches up rhythmically and stylistically with MacIver's poems. The stanzas in both "EC" and MacIver's poems are four lines each, and they all hit the same cadences. In a few of MacIver's poems, it almost reads like he was using "EC" as his formal model. If you read "EC" out loud, then read "For All That Inspires," the latter feels like an extension of the former. The syllabic structure and the places where the accents fall sound almost like products of the same mind.
In terms of subject matter, both poets have chosen very weighty topics. They dwell on society, the fate of the species in general, an individual's worth to others and to the whole of humanity, etc. Neither "EC"'s author nor MacIver bother themselves with trifling matters of the mundane; instead they grapple with the "big" issues, and both end up sounding grandiose and puffed up as a result. There are section of MacIver's book that deal with love and sexuality and other subjects, but the section of the book that contains the poems that track with "EC" in certain ways is devoted to those weightier, other-focused ideas.
MacIver doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor, while the author of "EC" does (however macabre). "EC" rhymes, while most of MacIver's poems do not (although rhythmically, they follow the same kind of ABAB ABAB, eight syllables to the line cadence of "EC;" the only seeming difference is the lack of rhymes).
Word choices, as mentioned above, are VERY similar. A few lines from MacIver's poems almost uncannily sound like something from the same author of "EC." ""Forging ramparts against disregard," "Thoughts linger now on life's consequence" (Note the way the author denotes possession in that line: a "consequence" that belongs to "life" is similar (to me, anyway) of the idea of a "crave" belonging to "excitement.")
In the poem "A Poet's Place," on page 51, the author even muses dreamily on the "place" of the poet in society, in the same way that the author of "EC" muses on the "place" of "All those mortal's surviving birth." Both poems discuss how society places worth on the individual.
Both poets are really not very good. (Sorry if you're reading this, Mr. MacIver!) The poetry of both parties scans like pretentious high school poetry to me.
Anyways, if you read them back to back, "EC" and MacIver's poems seem very similar.
EDIT: I am not accusing Don MacIver of being EAR. We don't even know if EAR wrote "Excitement's Crave." I just thought that the similarities, especially when read out loud, are interesting.