It's entirely possible that someone can be killing well into their 50+... I certainly wouldn't leave my wife alone in a room with Robert Durst today. I'm simply challenging the "they can't stop" supposition as some can and do. Because their crimes are so far beyond what we comprehend a lot of people forget that they're still human beings and their behaviors can and do mirror the drives of more normal people. I'm not suggesting that these killers ever transition to a normal psychological makeup,but that they do change enough so that they may not feel the need to continue committing murder.
And yes I understand that the newest generation of profilers are more knowledgeable than Ressler or Douglas, but most laypeople have an understanding of serial killers based on the work of those first profilers. And as far as I know, everyone on this board (myself included) are by-in-large laypeople.so when people on here say"they can't stop" their just repeating an opinion that is outdated.
Plus we have to keep in mind that all statistics are skewed here because we can only count the ones that are identified...
Think of murder as an addiction like alcoholism. An alcoholic is always an alcoholic, but they may or may not have their compulsions under control. They might think about drinking when times get stressful but they may be able to fight it off or they may not. I'm not convinced Rader would have automatically killed again- the planning phase may have been enough for him to keep the urges at bay.
I realize this may be bizarre, but I think about the many many people in my generation (I'm 66) who were either "addicted to drugs" or maybe having one affair after another. Could they just stop? YES, many, if not most, of them changed their ways. I know that a serial rapist/murderer is another matter, but sometimes life changes people. Could he have just changed?
I think the coward still has intense fantasies and it is his way of still having some control in his own secret sick way, along with still being in control/possession of small victim souvenirs. He probably became aware there was no way of holding down a good job with retirement if he continued with his late night terrors with such little sleep. Regardless if he held a good job or not (maybe his parents supported him), he tried not to think about being caught but the thought was there just enough to make him squirm so he tries to blend in with normal people but is one of those people your gut tells you stay clear and your dog barks or growls at him. Might be one of your co-workers you've heard got caught surfing/printing out porn on the job while eyeballing young women but wasn't disciplined because he's "such a nice guy" or the customer who just accidentally rubs up against a female employee. Or the guy who suddenly bursts into a rant over nothing (still much pent up anger) and a few minutes later acts like it never happened. Or when he visits your home, he doesn't just knock but also peaks through the window to see if you are home -- for a thrill of reminiscing. He subtly and sometimes not so subtly pushes social boundaries similar to accidentally drawing blood on his victims in the beginning. I think he drinks a lot and probably has been arrested for driving under the influence so would live in a state that is most tolerant of that crime without having to worry about submitting to a DNA sample. He doesn't drink to forget but because he feels sorry for himself, still; and takes it out on people with playing head games.
My greatest hope is he is dead or in prison and that DNA will catch up to him someday very soon preferably in a state with the death penalty.
Fearful of being caught, he sought therapy to treat his insanity. Thus, he was eventually reacquainted with his true self, received sexual reassignment surgery, traveled the world, and eventually fell in love & married a roided-up lesbian Bulgarian weight lifter named Olga, in the mid 90's.
Since that time, he has retired from the military. He now spends his spare time as a moderator on this VERY SITE, and even had a book published on the case.
He may or may not realize he is/was in fact HIM...!
I don't know drifter or anyone else on this site from a bar of soap. I'm a noob here. I do recall reading somewhere that the police investigated a poster to this site. Not sure if that's just a rumor or not...
When you consider the Excitements Crave letter for eg., where he names other serial killers such as S.o.S, and seems to be staking some sort of claim to his own notoriety, it's not that far fetched to assume that if he's still alive he's participated on sites such as this one in order to relive his crimes, monitor progress on the case, or even deliberately switch focus in the wrong directions.
Whether or not he's still active at this time, I had to go with moved and/or changed MO. With his changing geography with respect to the crimes that are linked to him, it's easy to imagine him moving out of state and continue activities like peeping or stalking/attacking additional victims.
I say DNA. That would scare the * out of me, too. He left too much of it to leave any more. Then again, DNA profiling was done as early as 1985, so maybe it took a little time for the information to make its way to EARONS. He may have been intelligent enough to deduce that they could possibly nab him for 50+ rapes and 10+ murders (I'm assuming he didn't know about different LE jurisdictions destroying evidence).
akwilks has an interesting theory, though; it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. He may have gotten married, started a family, and took a break after Goleta #2. Perhaps he was in the Irvine neighborhood by himself for a time and the temptation was too much because of the proximity. This is all speculation. However, I will say that unless he was going through a major life change around the time after D/S, he would have had to kick many of his compulsive behaviors. That included prowling, peeping, burglarizing, assaulting and, at this point, murdering. Or he'd have to at least fight them off for a while.
What bothers me is that there WAS a break so long. He did have faster and slower periods, but almost 5 years? He was fairly regular before, although he was slowing down somewhat. The abruptness is startling. Perhaps there are cases we don't know about. In areas that people didn't know about him. Either he didn't leave DNA or he only hit once. D/S wasn't officially tied via DNA until recently. O/M has no DNA tie but the link is MO-based. Maybe he struck somewhere where they didn't know about him or his MO.
elir: Take one out of the car, separate then can control. he isnt talking about two people, though.
Feb 12, 2021 2:43:51 GMT
elir: Okay I have to go. will try to check in later but if not will be tomorrow night for the second half.
Feb 12, 2021 2:45:53 GMT
elir: Interesting show so far.
Feb 12, 2021 2:46:04 GMT
goldrusher: Have a great weekend all.
Feb 12, 2021 12:24:21 GMT
elir: hey is anyone watching the next episode of the CPK show ( Lovers Lane Murders)? It is starting now on the OXYGEN network
Feb 13, 2021 2:02:35 GMT
elir: to night focusing on the next two homicides in the series Cassandra Haily and Keith Call
Feb 13, 2021 2:04:27 GMT
elir: disappeared on a first date and never found again
Feb 13, 2021 2:05:00 GMT
elir: due to proximity of the 3 cases, there is likely a connection.
Feb 13, 2021 2:06:11 GMT
elir: They presenters are talking to Keith and Cassandra's families
Feb 13, 2021 2:07:30 GMT
elir: She was a very active engaged and kind person
Feb 13, 2021 2:08:43 GMT
elir: Keith was shy , kind and caring
Feb 13, 2021 2:09:30 GMT
vivazapata: Oxygen is re-running the whole CPK series tonight starting @8 EST I believe and tomorrow AM, check their website for exact times: www.oxygen.com/schedule
Feb 13, 2021 23:17:25 GMT
cleopatra: Seeing Keith's brother break down was heart wrenching....
Feb 14, 2021 0:29:57 GMT
elir: It is hard enough to lose someone you love but to have no resolution, all those years. I cant imagine. Hope that other people that have been through this can give them support.
Feb 14, 2021 1:29:47 GMT
billthom56: Thanks everyone for watching the new "Lovers Lane Murders" series on the Colonial Parkway Murders on Oxygen. The four-part true crime series is running now.