Croydon Cat Killer

[drivelikejehu]

Jun 1, 2016 6:27:00 GMT Mitchell said:

May 31, 2016 23:33:03 GMT drivelikejehu said:

I live in south London, not far from Croydon. The local animal charities here are saying the number is actually much higher than 30, and that whoever it is (more than one person possibly) isn't just targeting south London but also going further south into the corridor of Kent. A lot of the animals aren't discovered 'til way after the fact so the police aren't that interested, terrible as it sounds.

I don't know how it is there but here the cops do not care. A bit.

When I was younger I worked at a manufacturing plant. My first day on the job, a guy(whom I would be working closely with everyday) told me that he had just gotten out of the penitentiary. I asked what he was in for. He replied that blew a guys head off. The night before his trial was to begin(wherein the state was seeking the death penalty) he accepted a plea bargain for a thirty year sentence. He was released after 15 years with time off for good behavior.

At the time he had been out of prison for a little over a year. He had an old lady, a new baby, and a new puppy. He frequently came to work with stories about his little family. Pictures and so forth. One day he came to work and showed everyone a picture of his new puppy crumpled in a ball at the base of a wall. He said the dog had been whining all day and finally s#!t on his bed. He grabbed the dog, snapped its neck and threw it against the wall. Everyone thought this was so funny. When he soon got a new puppy, everyone asked him if he had shown it pictures of the old puppy. So that it would stay in line, I guess.

The ordeal left me shocked and traumatized. His story indicated a sick dog that needed attention. He was too stupid to comprehend what the dog was trying to communicate to him so he killed it. I ended up repeatedly calling the local police department where I was quickly dismissed. The reason for my calls was always relayed to the policeman who I was being referred to and they somehow always failed to pick up the call. I ended up sending an email to a local crime stoppers tipline and never heard back.

I was very worried about the baby in his house. His new puppy. Not so much his live in gf because she was there by choice. Anyone who could see anything favorable in that worthless pile of s#&t was beyond redemption, anyway.

I was so filled with anger and disgust that I subsequently erupted into a violent rage and was fired.

The lesson I learned from this was that cops are less interested in the welfare of animals and children than they are in writing chickens#&t tickets. They won't even come to the phone.

Jeez, what an absolute psycho. Have you had a look on the internet to see if he's still alive/what he's been up to? Some people you meet, you just never can forget.

[Mitchell]

Jun 10, 2016 15:45:30 GMT drivelikejehu said:

Jun 1, 2016 6:27:00 GMT Mitchell said:

I don't know how it is there but here the cops do not care. A bit.

When I was younger I worked at a manufacturing plant. My first day on the job, a guy(whom I would be working closely with everyday) told me that he had just gotten out of the penitentiary. I asked what he was in for. He replied that blew a guys head off. The night before his trial was to begin(wherein the state was seeking the death penalty) he accepted a plea bargain for a thirty year sentence. He was released after 15 years with time off for good behavior.

At the time he had been out of prison for a little over a year. He had an old lady, a new baby, and a new puppy. He frequently came to work with stories about his little family. Pictures and so forth. One day he came to work and showed everyone a picture of his new puppy crumpled in a ball at the base of a wall. He said the dog had been whining all day and finally s#!t on his bed. He grabbed the dog, snapped its neck and threw it against the wall. Everyone thought this was so funny. When he soon got a new puppy, everyone asked him if he had shown it pictures of the old puppy. So that it would stay in line, I guess.

The ordeal left me shocked and traumatized. His story indicated a sick dog that needed attention. He was too stupid to comprehend what the dog was trying to communicate to him so he killed it. I ended up repeatedly calling the local police department where I was quickly dismissed. The reason for my calls was always relayed to the policeman who I was being referred to and they somehow always failed to pick up the call. I ended up sending an email to a local crime stoppers tipline and never heard back.

I was very worried about the baby in his house. His new puppy. Not so much his live in gf because she was there by choice. Anyone who could see anything favorable in that worthless pile of s#&t was beyond redemption, anyway.

I was so filled with anger and disgust that I subsequently erupted into a violent rage and was fired.

The lesson I learned from this was that cops are less interested in the welfare of animals and children than they are in writing chickens#&t tickets. They won't even come to the phone.

Jeez, what an absolute psycho. Have you had a look on the internet to see if he's still alive/what he's been up to? Some people you meet, you just never can forget.

I talked to a guy who currently works at that place and he is still there.

I've tried remembering his name but I can't. At the time this all occurred I searched him up, I found him in the state prison system(I think that's what it was) there was an old photo and details about the his conviction. I'm not a believer in phrenology but he looks abnormal. The shape of his head, the position and location of his eyes on his face, etc...just look... wrong.

He's a ginger who was balding and now shaves his head clean(he did at the time I knew him). About 6' tall with a larger but not fat body type. Not physically imposing but not wimpy either. His eyes were just...not right somehow. Everybody thought he was a good ol' boy cause he liked huntin' and fishin' and NASCAR. I took one look at him and could tell he was off before I even knew what he had done.

Sort of off topic but, once again, about 15 years ago I lived in a little rural town of about 200 which was 12 miles or so outside the county seat. There were lots of stray animals. Mostly young. I spent hours upon hours caring for these animals. Picking little kittens up so they could reach over the side of the water bowl and get a drink, trucking said water hundreds of yards away from the house 2-3 times daily. Buying them, along with my old dog Bowser's medicines(13 at the time w/congestive heart failure), instead of food for myself. There was a young dog there(I actually think she was part or full coyote) that I spent about 6 months talking to and feeding before she ever came close enough to let me pet her. Even then she would nearly convulse in fear and urinate on her self. There was also an old dog called Silver who had belonged to nearby family members who subsequently abandoned her. Old as the hills. The puppy I described had taken up with Silver. I also had an armadillo friend who would walk with me every night to fetch water.

To make a long story short, that puppy had puppies underneath an old abandoned and dilapidated trailer. I had to crawl under that old trailer several times a day to round up and check on the puppies as they would wander and get caught up in the shredded tarp material that ran all along the bottom of the trailer. They would effectively hang themselves. Nightmare type of stuff. The kind of stuff that kept me up nights. I couldn't sleep cozily in my bed knowing a sweet puppy was possibly suffering and dying while they cried for my help. Either that scenario or a million others just as a horrid. I still have two of those puppies. They are now 13 years old and have been my constant and faithfull companions for many years and through many hardships.

The situation eventually became untenable and my sanity was eroding. One night a sheriff responded to a neighbor's home. He wandered over and started chatting with my dad and myself. The conversation turned to the animals and what could be done to solve the problem. Shelters or foundations or what have you that could possibly help.

He replied there was none but offered to bring a buddy and come out and shoot them.

[Deleted]

I know that some arent going to get it, but here goes....

Your cultural food preferences are not the end all, be all in the entire population of planet Earth.
There are several countries in Western Europe where Horse was and in some still is an acceptible protein source.
In some Asian countries, Dog is an acceptible protein source.
To them, a Dog is not a life companion.
It is a protein source, just like any other wild or farmed animal, and it is completely accepted in their culture.
It is a shame that they treat them poorly on their way to the dinner table.
But, before you cast the first stone, go visit a US factory farm.
Then, tell me again how your process for raising, killing, and eating a protein source is still better than theirs.
We do the same, and much worse, to Cows, Pigs, Chicken, and Sheep just to name a few.

With this being said, I still eat meat.
I am just not naive in any way about how my meat is raised, handled, killed, or processed.

The consumption of Dog, Cat, or any other meat for the necessity of continuing your life processes is completely different from killing for pleasure.
Most of the men and women who raise, handle, kill, and process protein sources on factory farms and other locations around the world would agree, its not a pretty job and they dont do it for fun.

Animal = food you enjoy eating, that tastes good to you, and sustains your life functions = GOOD
Animal = lower function life form that you enjoy killing, and then waste the meat, fur, bone, etc by leaving it to rot for shock purposes and your own pleasure = BAD

Now, can we please leave discussion of the FIRST statment out of discussion of the SECOND statement.
This topic is for discussing a serial Animal Cruelty offender who is killing an animal not for food to eat, but because they get off on killing.

BTW Edit: This is in regards to the image of the Canines in the cage on the back of the motorcycle, and the comments regarding that image.
Its a shame that we judge people on what food they eat culturally.
It is also a shame that you are implyjng that a culturally accepted food source that is different from yours automatically makes that different person a criminal.
That is BIGOTTED and RIDICULOUS.
Why do we suddenly think that it cant be Joe Schmoe Englishman? Oh no, it cant possibly be HIM. Look at all these South East Asians running around?! Oh, the horror!

[Mitchell]

Ragfhest(?) said,

"It is also a shame that you are implyjng that a culturally accepted food source that is different from yours automatically makes that different person a criminal.
That is BIGOTTED and RIDICULOUS.
Why do we suddenly think that it cant be Joe Schmoe Englishman? Oh no, it cant possibly be HIM. Look at all these South East Asians running around?! Oh, the horror!"

Slow down, friend!! I can't speak for anyone else but I personally never implied anything of the sort. It seems your bias may be causing YOU to infer things that were never intended. But, I have no problem stating it. If you eat puppies you are a CRIMINAL. Also, I HATE their culture. It's EVIL. Sometimes it's a necessary evil, but more on that later.

Southeast Asians running around with the English? Well I NEVER...!!!

My dad grew up working on a ranch. He would regale my family with stories about playing with the calves, head butting them, chasing each other around. Same with the goats. Just like dogs, he would say. He loved them. I love them. All the little animals. They're my homies. You have the incredible audacityand nauseating arrogance to tell me I'm a bigot and how shameful I am while you defend the practice of eating dogs?

Your position isn't looking so good. Lets see if it can rebound after intermission.

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Yeah, I'm going to disagree with this also.

Animal = food you enjoy eating, that tastes good to you, and sustains your life functions = GOOD

I personally have spent a good portion of my life not eating meat or dairy products-which was not very popular in Texas(as I'm sure you can imagine). I personally don't think there is anything good about it. You mention factory farming and the cruelty involved which is a great point to make. Sadly, it's very true. You then follow that point with your above statement. So , you give a pass to dog, cat, and horse eaters because we in the west also have deplorable practices. You then call it "GOOD"? As opposed to hunting or simply GOOD on it's merit? Wild game has a better life until it dies. At least they have that going for them.

I'll make it easy for you and take a page from your book while I am at it.

Killing animals=EVIL. How neat. How concise.

It is a necessary evil when survival is at steak(oops!) but evil nonetheless. There is no virtue in it. Its just something that has to be done ever so often. If your children are freezing and they need a warm coat or blanket, to prevent death through starvation, or to feel like a big man. Oh snap!! Scratch that one.

Back to the point. I would say this thread is about The Croydon Cat Ripper but in a more general sense it's about cruelty to animals. That picture you so self righteously referenced is an example of cruelty to animals. Terrible cruelty to sweet innocent living creatures that never hurt anyone and deserve much better from us. We're humans. We should know better.

Awwe...too bad. You'll get 'em next time kid.

[tmacchallenger]

Jun 11, 2016 22:20:13 GMT @radaghest said:

I know that some arent going to get it, but here goes....

Your cultural food preferences are not the end all, be all in the entire population of planet Earth.
There are several countries in Western Europe where Horse was and in some still is an acceptible protein source.
In some Asian countries, Dog is an acceptible protein source.
To them, a Dog is not a life companion.
It is a protein source, just like any other wild or farmed animal, and it is completely accepted in their culture.
It is a shame that they treat them poorly on their way to the dinner table.
But, before you cast the first stone, go visit a US factory farm.
Then, tell me again how your process for raising, killing, and eating a protein source is still better than theirs.
We do the same, and much worse, to Cows, Pigs, Chicken, and Sheep just to name a few.

With this being said, I still eat meat.
I am just not naive in any way about how my meat is raised, handled, killed, or processed.

The consumption of Dog, Cat, or any other meat for the necessity of continuing your life processes is completely different from killing for pleasure.
Most of the men and women who raise, handle, kill, and process protein sources on factory farms and other locations around the world would agree, its not a pretty job and they dont do it for fun.

Animal = food you enjoy eating, that tastes good to you, and sustains your life functions = GOOD
Animal = lower function life form that you enjoy killing, and then waste the meat, fur, bone, etc by leaving it to rot for shock purposes and your own pleasure = BAD

Now, can we please leave discussion of the FIRST statment out of discussion of the SECOND statement.
This topic is for discussing a serial Animal Cruelty offender who is killing an animal not for food to eat, but because they get off on killing.

BTW Edit: This is in regards to the image of the Canines in the cage on the back of the motorcycle, and the comments regarding that image.
Its a shame that we judge people on what food they eat culturally.
It is also a shame that you are implyjng that a culturally accepted food source that is different from yours automatically makes that different person a criminal.
That is BIGOTTED and RIDICULOUS.
Why do we suddenly think that it cant be Joe Schmoe Englishman? Oh no, it cant possibly be HIM. Look at all these South East Asians running around?! Oh, the horror!

You were okay until you added the extra edit part. Take a chill pill because there is no reason for you to get that upset about it unless you come from a country that eats dogs or cats. If you do? Hey, I don't judge (too much). Just try to relax

[tmacchallenger]

Love animals....they are delicious!!!

[Deleted]

Y'all are silly

[albion]

Magnotta has been mentioned on the board, but this article was very interesting. For many reasons.

www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/animal-instinct-how-cat-loving-sleuths-found-an-accused-killer-sadist-20140319

[hellwig]

Somewhat related, this apparently isn't a crime, at least I hear no talk whatsoever of any upcoming criminal court proceedings:

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/nsw-greyhound-racing-industry-to-be-shut-down-from-2017/news-story/3d45e451862a9873d3ae506afdcd8458

Some excerpts:

The ABC uncovered the livebaiting scandal last year, showing disturbing footage of live animals being used to train greyhounds.

Mr Baird said the Special Commissions of Inquiry’s report found that between 48,000 and 68,000 greyhounds bred to race were killed in the past 12 years because they were deemed “uncompetitive”.

[biglebowskyoz]

My friend got one of those ex greyhound dogs poor thing was real sick after a couple days getting it so they took it to the dr. Turns out the dog was addicted to ice and other drugs and it's teeth had rot. So * sad smh

[kg]

May 31, 2016 22:01:31 GMT ketchnrelease said:

This just reminded me of the time our neighbor killed one of my sisters cats.
I grabbed his bb gun from his backyard, took it into my garage,put it into the vise and bent the barrell all the way backwards.
When the guy came home and saw it the look on his face was priceless
We were laughing so hard untill the Cops came knocking on the door

This reminds me of the stories in the more recent cat killing posts. Only it was a dad that destroyed the gun I believe.

[kg]

May 31, 2016 22:01:31 GMT ketchnrelease said:

This just reminded me of the time our neighbor killed one of my sisters cats.
I grabbed his bb gun from his backyard, took it into my garage,put it into the vise and bent the barrell all the way backwards.
When the guy came home and saw it the look on his face was priceless
We were laughing so hard untill the Cops came knocking on the door

This story reminds me of the following from Nick's 'Juvenile Cat Killer.........' thread.


My "old guy Patrol Deputy" (he worked Rancho during EAR) told me one of many stories that hit me just now. The old guy told me one night when we were talking about the sick things that kids with mental disorders do and how they become serial offenders as adults with there being signs early on. He told me about a call in Rancho that another much older guy had told him (so it's not first hand) there was a kid in Rancho area some time in the 1960's he thinks (that's how cops tell stories) it was before he started working there so best I can do on time frame that was killing cats. The Deputies located a kid they believed was responsible he used a BB gun and even a rope to kill them he engaged in stalking and hunting right in the neighborhood. Most people in the neighboorhood ignored the kid except of course the people with cats. Anyway, long story short the kid (the cat killer) called the Sheriff because his father had taken the kid's murder weapon the BB gun and bent the barrel he wanted his father arrested. The kid was described as unusually calm and kind of strange to talk to by the Deputy they put it together and he was caught as the serial cat killer the kid did not deny killing them and kept returning the topic to the BB gun damage. The Deputy was just amazed by this kids behavior due to the calmness and how he was completely honest about his dirty deeds no sense of wrong. They submitted a report and the DA did not charge the kid with a crime (different times)and there were no more calls to the house.


Perhaps these are the same stories and some of the details were confused when it was handed down?

[andrew]

it was the fox the police say

[faser41]

Jun 1, 2016 5:22:16 GMT lufttec said:

I'm looking for a particular person he uses many screen names, so if your offended I'm not sorry, I'm looking a particular person, if its not you then I will move on when I'm sure.

In addition to the posts from ketchnrelease i thought this posters comments were interesting. 

[californiah]

Dec 1, 2019 0:30:49 GMT faser41 said:

Jun 1, 2016 5:22:16 GMT lufttec said:

I'm looking for a particular person he uses many screen names, so if your offended I'm not sorry, I'm looking a particular person, if its not you then I will move on when I'm sure.

In addition to the posts from ketchnrelease i thought this posters comments were interesting. 

Yeah lufttec is explaining his personal "evidence room".

And Ketchnrelease is interesting.  Who talks about Durus Doors?  

Durus Doors are "high traffic" "cold storage" doors. 

What multiple set of crimes had  victims who were caught,   kept in cold storage, and later released? Cleaned of all(most) body evidence. ( get it catch and released)

Oh yeah lufttec is messing with someone.  He posted 340 times.

Know anyone else who has a mysterious 340?