where do you think ONS is NOW?

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Jan 1, 2014 1:03:44 GMT lepke said:

Dec 31, 2013 19:36:07 GMT @playinem121 said:

I was in the army with an under endowed guy named DeMario (I won't give his last name) but when he was teased in the showers he used to say, "it ain't the size of the mountain, its the motion of the ocean." Seriously though has anyone ever thought that an underlying medical cause might be the reason for the EAR/ONS' "shortcomings" such as they were?

I remember from my college anatomy class that there is a condition called "micropenis" and men who suffer from it represent less than 1% of the total male population. The condition also is often accompanied by depression, anxiety and a host of other psychiatric or psychological problems. Might this be a component of the obvious rage within this guy? The condition can be caused by hormone deficiencies, genetic abnormalities and lack of capability to synthesize or utilize testosterone. 

I have speculated that EAR/ONS may have had Klinefelter syndrome...

That is an interesting possibility lepke. My limited understanding of Klinefelter syndrome is that not only is the male genitalia under developed but also, the musculature and other masculine physical traits. The ability to perform physically as well as sexually is often impacted. The EAR/ONS seems to have been well muscled and pretty athletic. Nonetheless Klinefelter syndrome which would be the result of a genetic abnormality is definitely an intriguing possibility as are other potential causes of micropenis since it seems this guy would satisfy the diagnostic criteria for that condition. Have a great New Year all...play is off to Thunder Valley.

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Jan 1, 2014 1:57:42 GMT valentina said:

Jan 1, 2014 1:03:44 GMT lepke said:

I have speculated that EAR/ONS may have had Klinefelter syndrome...

Don't men who have Klinefelter's usually have flabby, androgynous bodies? It sounds like he had a pretty normal body, aside from his...equipment.

I think you are right Valentina. Of course this guy could have been an anomaly or, he could have worked really hard...training and dieting. It appears from some of the composites (VR-EAR-ONS) that his weight and physical condition could have varied at different times in his life also.

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Jan 1, 2014 3:45:07 GMT @playinem121 said:

Jan 1, 2014 1:57:42 GMT valentina said:

Don't men who have Klinefelter's usually have flabby, androgynous bodies? It sounds like he had a pretty normal body, aside from his...equipment.

I think you are right Valentina. Of course this guy could have been an anomaly or, he could have worked really hard...training and dieting. It appears from some of the composites (VR-EAR-ONS) that his weight and physical condition could have varied at different times in his life also.

I did a bit of research and it turns out that guys who have Klinefelter's tend to look a bit more "normal" once they reach adulthood, but they're usually taller than average. Klinefelter's just seems like a bad fit for GSK, but I do think, as you said, he may have had some other medical condition that caused his underdeveloped penis. Or perhaps--to be really blunt--he was a grower and not a show-er and his inability to achieve and maintain an erection made him seem smaller than he really was.

[Drifter]

Dec 31, 2013 18:41:39 GMT @dnaanswers said:

I apologize for asking an off topic question on this thread, but does anyone have a current police contact name/email addresses to send poi info? Thanks in advance

Hello dnaanswers:

Welcome to the board.  You might want to tell us little about yourself in the "Hello, my name is ..." thread in the Welcome section.

Gradually, over time, you will get to know the posters here better, and will find several who do indeed have police contact info.

Cheers,

Drifter  

[danmiami]

Dec 31, 2013 17:26:52 GMT guessting said:

Dec 31, 2013 16:11:29 GMT portofleith said:

I think it is likely he chose additional victims while peeping in neighborhoods during his Sacramento phase. So many victims reported prior phone calls and strange burglaries, either at their residences or a neighbor's.  These suburban neighborhoods during this time period were filled with boomer families-lots of teenage girls and young housewives present.

 He actually did have a small, very narrow penis, as described by most victims-some estimated three inches erect.  The problem with these descriptions is that he had great difficulty in achieving and maintaining an erection.

My Dearest of Friends, Port, thank you for finally being the only other one to give the width and lenth of the you know whattie! For years, I've endured the ridicule of the penis stories, called a liar, and the list goes on. The truth is EAR's penis is less than three inches at it's biggest and let me quote it "very, very, very narrow." I don't know why I go so embarrassed talking about it. I think it was because the few of us who know naturally felt I was the one!  The truth of the matter it was highly confidential at certain times during the case. And then came the big and bad "homosexual panic." So that ended that! But the guy just really got shorted when it came to his penis. It was ittie bittie..And there is no nice way to say this.g

[danmiami]

I gotta tell you this is a board regarding a very serious topic about a very sick individual. But I have read some of these posts and I can't stop laughing. I mean "Micropenis" and 3 inches fully erect? Ha! What about limp ? Perhaps he was in the locker room in school and was laughed at? Well I guess we can go ahead and eliminate all of the Italian and African American men. LOL. No really I grew up in the hood in South Florida. Being Italian and having a lot of black friends growing up we used to joke about that all the time. I will say that if he was very small and was in the showers in junior and senior high school (even though most guys wouldn't go out of their way to look) that would be something that would cause EAR to be the source of many jokes. Let alone possibly being beat up and picked on. Just the way it was and probably still is.

Is it a coincidence? Is there a coorelation between a rapist and endowment? Maybe he got jealous because in watching the husband satisfy his wife it was something he felt he could not achieve? Is that the reason he watched couples having sex because perhaps he failed in his ability to satisfy a woman? Interesting angle of thought even though I never even considered it before the "micropenis" comment. If there is such a thing (which there probably is) that is a tough break. Would his girlfriend accept his "micropenis" ailment. Anyone who has to violate a woman has very serious issues to begin with. I think it has to do with his upbringing and his hatred for women . Usually this due to a poor mother and an overall bad upbringing in general. Amazing that no one (that we know of) has come forward because obviously he had problems in his life.

[Dan]

still living in california with his wife and kids

[Greg]

Or sending ideas to James Patterson for the next psychopath Alex Cross should deal with.....

[Drifter]

Okay.

Now let's get back to the topic of this thread: "Where do you think ONS is NOW?"

[danmiami]

Jan 3, 2014 2:57:46 GMT cerulean said:

Jan 2, 2014 22:24:59 GMT danmiami said:

I gotta tell you this is a board regarding a very serious topic about a very sick individual. But I have read some of these posts and I can't stop laughing. I mean "Micropenis" and 3 inches fully erect? Ha! What about limp ? Perhaps he was in the locker room in school and was laughed at? Well I guess we can go ahead and eliminate all of the Italian and African American men. LOL. No really I grew up in the hood in South Florida. Being Italian and having a lot of black friends growing up we used to joke about that all the time. I will say that if he was very small and was in the showers in junior and senior high school (even though most guys wouldn't go out of their way to look) that would be something that would cause EAR to be the source of many jokes. Let alone possibly being beat up and picked on. Just the way it was and probably still is.

Is it a coincidence? Is there a coorelation between a rapist and endowment? Maybe he got jealous because in watching the husband satisfy his wife it was something he felt he could not achieve? Is that the reason he watched couples having sex because perhaps he failed in his ability to satisfy a woman? Interesting angle of thought even though I never even considered it before the "micropenis" comment. If there is such a thing (which there probably is) that is a tough break. Would his girlfriend accept his "micropenis" ailment. Anyone who has to violate a woman has very serious issues to begin with. I think it has to do with his upbringing and his hatred for women . Usually this due to a poor mother and an overall bad upbringing in general. Amazing that no one (that we know of) has come forward because obviously he had problems in his life.

No. If every man raped because he had a small penis, probably half the board would be rapists.

Besides not being accurate as to why men rape, there are some simple leaps of logic going on with this line of thought.
How does a man with a micropenis rape women with it? Do your research and at least wiki that thing. And learn about the cases involved with ear. No victim said or even alluded to the fact that he had a micro penis. Unless Larry Crompton is lying in his book for kicks, there were quite a few victims who said 5inches or therearound. There was one who compared his penis to a hotdog. Note: not a vienna sausage.  Overall, the only thing you can tell based on all the victim statements is he was barely erect for the rapes, which is also common with rapists.  You can blather on that he had a micropenis or was 3inches erect because it makes you feel smug, but to do that you have to discount some of the victim's reports, which is obscene and dismissive of their trauma.

In the same vein, a man who completely cant perform sexually  and that is his driving force for the attacks, is going to use a proxy penis or phallic action on the victim for obvious reasons.

And while it seems counterintuitive to say, rapists dont necessarily hate all women. The major factor in how they treat  women is that they see them as objects.  They might have a wife that they love, in terms of owning her. They might have a daughter who they love and see as an extension of themselves. At base, he sees them as objects. His victim is an object he can use. And that goes for murders too, and even moreso for serial rapists and serial murderers. They get sexually aroused by sexual violence, whether its rape or killing.

Not all rapists hate their mothers. That is a myth that has been debunked thoroughly. Now that they have a larger base of these criminals to study, they believe the father's role in their life is more influental. Does earons hate his mother? Does he hate some specific woman or a representative of them? Not necessarily. When you look at a great white shark like this, it can be as simple as he was wired to do this.  He gets off on hurting women he is sexually attracted to, and has attached a flimsy subtext to make himself feel justified in treating them that way.  IMO, its a mix of this and some real hatred for women, learned somewhere. Possibly, from his dad.

[danmiami]

Well that is why I was asking the question to the board and not answering it. Actually there has been those who were well endowed and also turned out to be psychopathic rapists. Very difficult to correlate a relationship between the two. I do believe a more logical explanation is the broken family theory and some event that triggered his hatred for women. Whether rejection by someone he once loved. This is what set set Bundy off. If you believe that VR was EAR theory I said in earlier posts that the Beth Snelling incident may hold some clues to this guy. Did he stalk her or ask her out and was rejected? I hope LE did interview Ms Snelling and asked these questions. However you can justify a million reasons as to why one does what one does. In the end to make that leap to rape and eventually murder is the result of a very sick and demented mind. Again whether it was a father figure or because or his mother is again mere speculation.

But back to what Drifter's point about where he is now? Quite possible he contracted a sexually transmitted disease and thus quit raping and killing as a result. Or if he did contract AIDS he would have died long ago. Would someone with a blood disorder need a transfusion? Again another high risk procedure before we knew about AIDS and how it could be transmitted? The man engaged in extremely risky behavior and one not conducive to a long life span. Add the non-secretor status and this adds even more potential health problems according to statistics.

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80-20 he's out of California. 60-40 he's out of the country. I can't justify the numbers but I'm thinking he had family offshore somewhere. Some immigrant families maintain contact for generations. The description of EAR as having a prominent nose suggests Southern Europe but it's a characteristic of the Romans and they pretty much went everywhere all those years ago. Lotta places he could go, learn the language, and never see another American.

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Jan 3, 2014 2:57:46 GMT cerulean said:

Jan 2, 2014 22:24:59 GMT danmiami said:

I gotta tell you this is a board regarding a very serious topic about a very sick individual. But I have read some of these posts and I can't stop laughing. I mean "Micropenis" and 3 inches fully erect? Ha! What about limp ? Perhaps he was in the locker room in school and was laughed at? Well I guess we can go ahead and eliminate all of the Italian and African American men. LOL. No really I grew up in the hood in South Florida. Being Italian and having a lot of black friends growing up we used to joke about that all the time. I will say that if he was very small and was in the showers in junior and senior high school (even though most guys wouldn't go out of their way to look) that would be something that would cause EAR to be the source of many jokes. Let alone possibly being beat up and picked on. Just the way it was and probably still is.

Is it a coincidence? Is there a coorelation between a rapist and endowment? Maybe he got jealous because in watching the husband satisfy his wife it was something he felt he could not achieve? Is that the reason he watched couples having sex because perhaps he failed in his ability to satisfy a woman? Interesting angle of thought even though I never even considered it before the "micropenis" comment. If there is such a thing (which there probably is) that is a tough break. Would his girlfriend accept his "micropenis" ailment. Anyone who has to violate a woman has very serious issues to begin with. I think it has to do with his upbringing and his hatred for women . Usually this due to a poor mother and an overall bad upbringing in general. Amazing that no one (that we know of) has come forward because obviously he had problems in his life.

No. If every man raped because he had a small penis, probably half the board would be rapists.

Besides not being accurate as to why men rape, there are some simple leaps of logic going on with this line of thought.
How does a man with a micropenis rape women with it? Do your research and at least wiki that thing. And learn about the cases involved with ear. No victim said or even alluded to the fact that he had a micro penis. Unless Larry Crompton is lying in his book for kicks, there were quite a few victims who said 5inches or therearound. There was one who compared his penis to a hotdog. Note: not a vienna sausage.  Overall, the only thing you can tell based on all the victim statements is he was barely erect for the rapes, which is also common with rapists.  You can blather on that he had a micropenis or was 3inches erect because it makes you feel smug, but to do that you have to discount some of the victim's reports, which is obscene and dismissive of their trauma.

In the same vein, a man who completely cant perform sexually  and that is his driving force for the attacks, is going to use a proxy penis or phallic action on the victim for obvious reasons.

And while it seems counterintuitive to say, rapists dont necessarily hate all women. The major factor in how they treat  women is that they see them as objects.  They might have a wife that they love, in terms of owning her. They might have a daughter who they love and see as an extension of themselves. At base, he sees them as objects. His victim is an object he can use. And that goes for murders too, and even moreso for serial rapists and serial murderers. They get sexually aroused by sexual violence, whether its rape or killing.

Not all rapists hate their mothers. That is a myth that has been debunked thoroughly. Now that they have a larger base of these criminals to study, they believe the father's role in their life is more influental. Does earons hate his mother? Does he hate some specific woman or a representative of them? Not necessarily. When you look at a great white shark like this, it can be as simple as he was wired to do this.  He gets off on hurting women he is sexually attracted to, and has attached a flimsy subtext to make himself feel justified in treating them that way.  IMO, its a mix of this and some real hatred for women, learned somewhere. Possibly, from his dad.

LOL! Everybody is a psychiatrist. There is a condition for which the medical terminology is "micropenis". I happened to hear of it in a human anatomy class at San Francisco State University in 1990. The condition is usually accompanied by a host of psychological issues many of which are said to impact sufferers' interactions and relations with females. I brought it up after reading posts by portofleith and guessting whom I trust. Cerulean is correct however that in "Sudden Terror" there are varying descriptions of the rapist's genitalia. However Mr. Crompton's book does contain some factual errors which are common knowledge on this board. And I would remind everyone that having a penis the size and thickness of a "hotdog" is not in my personal opinion and experience anything to boast about.

Danmiami--I thought your post was interesting and entirely possible as was cerulean's retort. The truth is that all of us are just guessing at what motivates this creep until hopefully he is identified and, even more hopefully brought to justice.

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Just two more things from that same above referenced human anatomy class. Ninety percent of all male genitalia are within one standard deviation in length. For those of us who went to American public schools that means they are all pretty close in length with a few outliers. Micropenis is a condition suffered by significantly fewer than 1% of all males so if "half the males on this board" have it something very strange indeed is going on here.

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I apologize for deviating from the topic of where EAR/ONS is now. Where do I think he is? My most sincere hope would be that he is chained up in a small cabin located somewhere in the deep woods where he is at the mercy of a psychopathic homosexual rapist/sexual sadist. However, I think that like most Californians of his age group he has probably retired to the Pacific Northwest to enjoy the great outdoors, beautiful scenery and low crime rates.