New Sacramento Investigative Leads Announced Today

[morf13]

Feb 3, 2018 21:20:24 GMT @cloudofwitnesses said:

There is one strong possibility for a broken shoulder caused by a jump or vault over a fence into a very steep canal in the dark. It would involve landing on the point of the shoulder, causing a severely separated shoulder. This is what happened to me during a pickup mud football game at university during the 1980's. All 190 lbs of my frame concentrated on my shoulder, and the clavicle (or collar) bone completely separated from the shoulder, creating severe pain and a trip the ER. The doctors at the ER all laughed, saying I looked as if l had a football pad underneath my skin. When I looked in the mirror, I was grossly deformed, or so I thought. The doctors gave me pain medication, attached a sling to my shoulder, and referred me to an orthopedic surgeon.

The orthopedic surgeon told me I had two options. The first option was to leave it as is, and after about one month regain most of my strength and motion--but always have a clavical bone sticking two inches above my shoulder. Two, any time after about two years (a standard time), surgically remove the tip of the clavical, and reattach muscle to bring the bone it closer to the shoulder. I chose the latter. It was an expensive surgery, and involved multiple doctors, but fortunately I had insurance to cover it. It worked, but the doctors warned me that I would most likely suffer from arthritis in that shoulder. They were right.
Three thoughts on this:

1.) Given medical insurance and a severe injury, there's a good chance EAR could have had his shoulder restored by an orthopedic surgeon starting the summer of 1979, which would include Santa Barbara. LE should be looking at all such hospital operations on record in the Santa Barbara area at that time.

2.) The fake credentials suggest the hospital location was quite random. But they also suggest the suspect was in serious pain, and didn't rely on family for help.

3.) If alive, EAR could have arthritis in one of his shoulders.

Ding Ding Ding

[kemo]

One takeaway from this “lead” is that it further reduces that probability of EAR/ONS being VR. I think there is a high degree of confidence that this mystery patient was EAR/ONS. If it was, he was apparently in Sacramento committing burglaries in 1975 as that is apparently how he got the id he was using. It would be interesting to know the neighborhood that burglary occurred.

[claudius_2014]

Feb 3, 2018 15:50:21 GMT morf13 said:

Feb 3, 2018 14:10:09 GMT Relentless said:

I hope that shoulder injury hurt like MF'er.

Too bad he didn't land on his head and break his neck

[drdoogie]

If this was EAR and he chose a hospital away from where he lived, why did he choose a hospital that was still within his attack area? Why not go to a downtown hospital? Or to Roseville Hospital?

American River Hospital was a relatively small facility where it would be difficult to "disappear into a crowd". I suspect that he would have had an easier time not being noticed at one of the larger downtown hospitals. But if he thought that a smaller hospital was best, it makes more sense to me to travel the short distance to Roseville Hospital which is in a different county and a different jurisdiction from where his crimes occurred.

My suspicion is that if this was EAR, he probably went to the closest hospital that he could find because his shoulder hurt like hell and he wanted the quickest relief that he could find. He probably thought that his fake ID would be enough to pull it off, but when the staff became suspicious, he sensed it and split. He then likely did go to another hospital farther away.

If my speculation is true, then this is another clue that EAR lived in the general area of Carmichael near American River Hospital. Add to the mix that the optometrist that was the second part of the new release was located at Fair Oaks near Marconi/Palm which is in the same general area as ARH and you have multiple examples of possible non-attack EAR sightings in Carmichael.

I recognize that others can make a logical case for Rancho Cordova or other locations, but my gut is saying this SOB lived in or very near the area bordered by Walnut, Engle, Mission and Whitney. I may be wrong, but I think the noose is tightening around his neck a little more each day.

[Deleted]

Feb 3, 2018 22:39:24 GMT drdoogie said:

If this was EAR and he chose a hospital away from where he lived, why did he choose a hospital that was still within his attack area? Why not go to a downtown hospital? Or to Roseville Hospital?

American River Hospital was a relatively small facility where it would be difficult to "disappear into a crowd". I suspect that he would have had an easier time not being noticed at one of the larger downtown hospitals. But if he thought that a smaller hospital was best, it makes more sense to me to travel the short distance to Roseville Hospital which is in a different county and a different jurisdiction from where his crimes occurred.

My suspicion is that if this was EAR, he probably went to the closest hospital that he could find because his shoulder hurt like hell and he wanted the quickest relief that he could find. He probably thought that his fake ID would be enough to pull it off, but when the staff became suspicious, he sensed it and split. He then likely did go to another hospital farther away.

If my speculation is true, then this is another clue that EAR lived in the general area of Carmichael near American River Hospital. Add to the mix that the optometrist that was the second part of the new release was located at Fair Oaks near Marconi/Palm which is in the same general area as ARH and you have multiple examples of possible non-attack EAR sightings in Carmichael.

I recognize that others can make a logical case for Rancho Cordova or other locations, but my gut is saying this SOB lived in or very near the area bordered by Walnut, Engle, Mission and Whitney. I may be wrong, but I think the noose is tightening around his neck a little more each day.

My thoughts exactly!

[MJP]

Feb 3, 2018 22:39:24 GMT drdoogie said:

[...]

If my speculation is true, then this is another clue that EAR lived in the general area of Carmichael near American River Hospital. Add to the mix that the optometrist that was the second part of the new release was located at Fair Oaks near Marconi/Palm which is in the same general area as ARH and you have multiple examples of possible non-attack EAR sightings in Carmichael.

I recognize that others can make a logical case for Rancho Cordova or other locations, but my gut is saying this SOB lived in or very near the area bordered by Walnut, Engle, Mission and Whitney. I may be wrong, but I think the noose is tightening around his neck a little more each day.

And the owner of the stolen union ID card lived on Robertson Avenue in 1975.

[drdoogie]

Feb 3, 2018 23:45:31 GMT MJP said:

Feb 3, 2018 22:39:24 GMT drdoogie said:

[...]

If my speculation is true, then this is another clue that EAR lived in the general area of Carmichael near American River Hospital. Add to the mix that the optometrist that was the second part of the new release was located at Fair Oaks near Marconi/Palm which is in the same general area as ARH and you have multiple examples of possible non-attack EAR sightings in Carmichael.

I recognize that others can make a logical case for Rancho Cordova or other locations, but my gut is saying this SOB lived in or very near the area bordered by Walnut, Engle, Mission and Whitney. I may be wrong, but I think the noose is tightening around his neck a little more each day.

And the owner of the stolen union ID card lived on Robertson Avenue in 1975.

MJP, that is good info.  Where did you find that?

[MJP]

Feb 3, 2018 23:47:05 GMT drdoogie said:

Feb 3, 2018 23:45:31 GMT MJP said:

And the owner of the stolen union ID card lived on Robertson Avenue in 1975.

MJP, that is good info.  Where did you find that?

Reported by SCSD on its FB page: "It is unclear whether the items were stolen or lost but the rightful owner lived on Robertson Ave in Sacramento and is now deceased."

[Deleted]

Feb 3, 2018 23:50:35 GMT MJP said:

Feb 3, 2018 23:47:05 GMT drdoogie said:

MJP, that is good info.  Where did you find that?

Reported by SCSD on its FB page: "It is unclear whether the items were stolen or lost but the rightful owner lived on Robertson Ave in Sacramento and is now deceased."

Robertson avenue is in Carmichael, not far from the American River hospital . One of Richard Chases Murders was on Richardson as well . That was a very crazy street to be on in the mid 70’s !

[MJP]

Also (on the SCSD FB page) a person who used to work at the hospital has flagged up a colleague (with the initials BK) who used to register patients.

[drdoogie]

Feb 3, 2018 23:50:35 GMT MJP said:

Feb 3, 2018 23:47:05 GMT drdoogie said:

MJP, that is good info.  Where did you find that?

Reported by SCSD on its FB page: "It is unclear whether the items were stolen or lost but the rightful owner lived on Robertson Ave in Sacramento and is now deceased."

Thanks.  I will join up there.  That is good info that I did not know.  The info about a ARH employee identifying an employee initaled "BK" looks promising.

[MJP]

Feb 4, 2018 0:03:26 GMT drdoogie said:

Feb 3, 2018 23:50:35 GMT MJP said:

Reported by SCSD on its FB page: "It is unclear whether the items were stolen or lost but the rightful owner lived on Robertson Ave in Sacramento and is now deceased."

Thanks.  I will join up there.  That is good info that I did not know.  The info about a ARH employee identifying an employee initaled "BK" looks promising.

They have responded to a few of the comments posted, so it might be worth asking a question or two :-)

[MJP]

The other interesting comment from SCSD: "These are newly discovered leads and we are asking for help from the public." 

(This was in response to a poster asking why SCSD has waited 40 years to ask the public for help.)

[michael]

Feb 4, 2018 0:14:37 GMT @cloudofwitnesses said:

That was exactly my thoughts as well but without knowing how severe the injury was, it is difficult to say if he had to walk to the Hospital.

Edit: cloudofwitnesses said :But a severe shoulder injury greatly inhibits riding a bike or driving a car, especially a stick shift. So perhaps EAR was limited to a hospital within walking distance of his residence.

[MJP]

Feb 4, 2018 0:14:37 GMT @cloudofwitnesses said:

That the owner of the stolen union ID card lived on Robertson Avenue in 1975, which is not far from AR Hospital, seems to also back up the theory that the hospital EAR visited was chosen because it was closest to where the owner lived, and not to where EAR himself lived. So in this theory, the location is more randomly related to where the owner lived.

But a severe shoulder injury greatly inhibits riding a bike or driving a car, especially a stick shift. So perhaps EAR was limited to a hospital within walking distance of his residence.

But - if the card was stolen in 1975 and not used until 1977 - I'm not sure how relevant the location of the 1975 residence is to the choice of hospital two years later..?