Irish Triad and Why Jack from Quincy is so Mad

[rkz]

Feb 27, 2018 0:00:08 GMT californiah said:

Some ideas. Taking a path less traveled.

Irish Triad used as basic structure. An arrangement into threes. (Yellow book of Lecan)

Example-

Three smiles that are worse than sorrow:

the smile of the snow as it melts,

the smile of your wife on you after another man has been with her,

the grin of a hound ready to leap at you



Every piece of evidence, including names, car colors, colors of clothing, paint, geographic locations etc. of his narrative is “cross pollinating” his other stories/crimes. He is leaving his signature.


Thanks to Newbienew for sharing this story/link   
truecrimearticles.com/2018/02/20/the-east-area-rapist-hospitals-and-jack-from-quincy/

About the link between EAR and the “Jack from Quincy”, spotted at the Riverside Conv. Home.


On 3/30/ 1978.





Attached another story/link in these two articles.
www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1978/07/06/5-boys-who-never-come-back/f8b30b11-baeb-4351-89f3-26456a76a4fb/?utm_term=.330ed2469659
www.strangeoutdoors.com/mysterious-stories-blog/2017/12/7/mathias-group-from-yuba-city


Pay attention to the details from the original article posted on 7/6/1978 in the Washington Post.

If you have read any of my other posts I am inclined to believe that imbedded in the book Morals and Dogma by Pike 1871, “Our guy” has purposefully designed scenarios around existing text to match his real-life activity. (thus, writing sentences that will fit his story.) The Sherlock Holmes stories touch on this “Valley of Fear” discusses a cipher encoded book - this same idea. Note these stories are also part of the “three’ for source material.

Not convinced. You shouldn’t be. You have to do the work.

Read “Gloria Scott” and see what you can create with that.

Attached is “Mad is the Word” with details from the crime scene verified and reported in the 3/30/78 article. Then check out the portion attached that “supports” it from the 6th grade chapters from Morals and Dogma.

And this is only one layer.
  

Copy and put them into word docs. Do key word search , you may find something different but the same nuts and bolts are there.


We shared Geography and time with him.

He plays for lives in his world and we try to locate him in ours.

Mmm-mmm....that is one tasty word salad!

[californiah]

Feb 28, 2018 15:35:27 GMT richporce said:

Exactly the kind of conspiracy-tier nonsense this case doesn't need.

This is like the Radians in Zodiac all over again. Like re-arranging the letters of the Twin Towers insurance company into "Bush Did 9/11"

I actually think the OP should be banned from the forum; this is just such a deranged, mentally ill non-theory that its effect can ONLY be toxic. There is literally nothing in this kind of bizarre pareidolia that can have any kind of positive effect.

It isn't even speculation. It's noise

Easy there…and who appointed you captain of the Thought Police? All the sensitive readers here.


A story embedded in the structure of another is not a new device.


This is not a conspiracy. This is about trying to identifying patterns.

We label half the evidence as Red Herrings, other evidence like the “The Homework” we take at face value. The most successful criminal in his field, running around Northern California, on a rape spree and he’s carrying halfwit assignments from years past?

First step = ITS ALL RED HERRINGS .

Look at the hours wasted- “we should interview teachers who assigned Custer…..No, who taught City Planning courses…….companies who construct….What city is that?” And on and on.

These items were planted. Take them at face value and good luck on your next 40 years.

Just exploring “another interpretation” of the evidence.

Why are 90% of his crimes located North or Northeast of city center?

Why do those 5 colors keep showing up, in clothing, cars……..?

Why do those same colors also appear in all the city/county seals/flags where his crimes occur?

He is risking detection/capture to make visits at hospitals and convalescent homes, for what?

To say “I,m Jack from the town of Quincy” or “I fell off scaffolding”.

And STILL it takes us 40 years to figure this was probably him?

He is taunting and directing “his” story. He was trying to show LE how smart he was. So much for that.

Pick that scab, wrestle that maggot out, there is another story below that first step. ( sorry for the dirty talk.)

Fair enough. Whats your noise

[Captain]

Feb 28, 2018 23:35:44 GMT californiah said:

Feb 28, 2018 15:35:27 GMT richporce said:

Exactly the kind of conspiracy-tier nonsense this case doesn't need.

This is like the Radians in Zodiac all over again. Like re-arranging the letters of the Twin Towers insurance company into "Bush Did 9/11"

I actually think the OP should be banned from the forum; this is just such a deranged, mentally ill non-theory that its effect can ONLY be toxic. There is literally nothing in this kind of bizarre pareidolia that can have any kind of positive effect.

It isn't even speculation. It's noise

Easy there…and who appointed you captain of the Thought Police? All the sensitive readers here.


A story embedded in the structure of another is not a new device.


This is not a conspiracy. This is about trying to identifying patterns.

We label half the evidence as Red Herrings, other evidence like the “The Homework” we take at face value. The most successful criminal in his field, running around Northern California, on a rape spree and he’s carrying halfwit assignments from years past?

First step = ITS ALL RED HERRINGS .

Look at the hours wasted- “we should interview teachers who assigned Custer…..No, who taught City Planning courses…….companies who construct….What city is that?” And on and on.

These items were planted. Take them at face value and good luck on your next 40 years.

Just exploring “another interpretation” of the evidence.

Why are 90% of his crimes located North or Northeast of city center?

Why do those 5 colors keep showing up, in clothing, cars……..?

Why do those same colors also appear in all the city/county seals/flags where his crimes occur?

He is risking detection/capture to make visits at hospitals and convalescent homes, for what?

To say “I,m Jack from the town of Quincy” or “I fell off scaffolding”.

And STILL it takes us 40 years to figure this was probably him?

He is taunting and directing “his” story. He was trying to show LE how smart he was. So much for that.

Pick that scab, wrestle that maggot out, there is another story below that first step. ( sorry for the dirty talk.)

Fair enough. Whats your noise

Madness is the word that comes to mind when I read your delusional ramblings

[woofytreats]

At this point, you've gotta think that Occam is crying somewhere and doing bad things with his razor...

[californiah]

Mar 1, 2018 0:57:51 GMT woofytreats said:

At this point, you've gotta think that Occam is crying somewhere and doing bad things with his razor...

Agreed Occam is not happy.


The basketball game. UC Davis played UC Chico on 2/24/78 the night the friends went missing.

(one year of rations, Mexican food found in shed. Unused.)


Ted and friends found on 6/5/78


On 6/7/78 EAR hits UC Davis for the first time.

Screwdriver used as weapon.

Uses Mexican accent.


Here is his script from that night.

June 7, 1978

“All I want is food and money or I’ll kill you” ---- “Put your hands behind your back or I’ll blow your brains out” ---- “All I want is food and money” ---- “Don’t move or you won’t see any of your friends ever again” ---- “Don’t move, don’t scream, or you won’t see any of your friends again. And I mean any of your friends” ----“I told you to be quiet or I’ll kill you” ----“Play with my dick” ---- “Shut up”



Yeah.

Just random.

[californiah]

Just offering an alternate review of the evidence. Again this is not a conspiracy. We universally agree that he spent and enormous amount of time in recon/setup phase, on site and the follow up harassment. I happen to believe that he also spent an enormous amount of time trying to "link" his activities.

With this updated view of the Maggiore murders, look at the "activity" prior, i think he is ensuring his involvment. He seems to take extreme risks to make "points". Would he seek treatment for the shoulder injury or was that all a plant? I believe it was strictly to relay info and taunt LE.

What "his" narrative is ?? I dont know.

Alot of common elements seem to resurface and those elements have multiple meanings.

Was trying to start a dialogue about potential "multiple meanings" of evidence.

Thats it.

[rkz]

Mar 6, 2018 0:36:29 GMT californiah said:

Just offering an alternate review of the evidence. Again this is not a conspiracy. We universally agree that he spent and enormous amount of time in recon/setup phase, on site and the follow up harassment. I happen to believe that he also spent an enormous amount of time trying to "link" his activities.

With this updated view of the Maggiore murders, look at the "activity" prior, i think he is ensuring his involvment. He seems to take extreme risks to make "points". Would he seek treatment for the shoulder injury or was that all a plant? I believe it was strictly to relay info and taunt LE.

What "his" narrative is ?? I dont know.

Alot of common elements seem to resurface and those elements have multiple meanings.

Was trying to start a dialogue about potential "multiple meanings" of evidence.

Thats it.

You coulda said that upfront and saved yourself a headache or two! Anyways, those are interesting points and indeed a different (and valid) prism through which to view this case. I don't necessarily see myself doing much research in that area, but I sincerely wish you well in your discovery.

[californiah]

Thanks. Wasnt trying to sound "Cryptic".

Maybe just looking at this too much.

[justasking]

Had no idea this was still going on here. Association is one key element to thinking process, but when it starts to become association for associations sake, it starts to seem delusional to others. Little spontaneous synchronicities between different things start to seem more significant than they are, if they're significant at all in the first place. Same thing can happen under the influence of some psychoactive drugs. It might muddy the waters. But it's no reason to restrain from association completely.

One aspect pertaining to your "process" I'd like to address. The cryptography of the perpetrator's intentions. Some people see "signs" everywhere, and that is called psychosis. But then there are those who dismiss the idea that there could be some signs somewhere, and those person could even end up to see signs of others seeing signs, too easily.

So let's think about the 1970's. There is the passage of time to separate us from that time period, obviously. Nowadays we have plentiful amounts of serial killer movies and so on. It's in this day and age that we have an especially sharp sense for a cliché. Like the thought of a serial killer (or some other offender of the same type) leaving deliberate puzzle pieces behind him, playing some game, would be something unthinkable. Because that's just some far-out movie stuff, right? Yes it is, because those movies have a precedent in some real occurences too. Although of course those real occurrences were already inspired by some books, movies, vintage detective magazines and so on. Still we can't deny the fact that the Zodiac seemed to have this sort of a thing going on. And Dennis Rader too. 60's - 70's. EAR/ONS was of course a child of his times, times when that sort of a schema was still fresh, and completely believable. When we consider his possible intentions, we must try to remember the passage of time between. The historicity of his behavior.

That's why I don't think the thought somehow completely impossible that he might have played some game of the sort and degree that was even greater than noticed or assumed. We can't now if that unadressed aspect had something crucial to it if we don't care to entertain the possibility whatsoever. It's a shame when it's so polarized. Only the "psychotics" dare to associate and speculate, ending up with dysfunctional and incoherent results. That gives even more grounds for the "skeptics" to dismiss any avenue that even resembled that sort of a danger. And so the vicious circle goes on, strenghtening itself even further.

But we all must have some associations moving about in the back of our minds. They might evolve into more coherent thoughts or they might not. Why shouldn't we make this thread into a kind of a general sewage system for our associations, not just yours? Those thoughts that we stop in their tracks because... nah, it's too stupid. Too far-fetched? The thoughts with the sort of a quality that compells people to add the disclaimer: "this might sound completely crazy but..." - of course, it's not a quality that should be forcibly exaggerated. It's just what it is. And it's sometimes tiresome to use all the conditional disclaimers; "might", "could", "possibly", "of course we don't know", "this is only speculation" et cetera. One would think that those evidently true disclaimers should already serve as an obvious backdrop to everything that's said, if it's clear from the context that it is only speculation, association and so on. But that's that. My own post is a little incoherent already.

So, why do you think he left Miller beer cans at some crimes scenes as there was the word "Milling" written on the Danville paper? Was he perhaps hiding in plain sight the fact that he had some familial, transgenerational roots having tl do with the occupation of a miller, who does the milling at the mill? If he'd bet that the "dumb cops" wouldn't ever come up with the solution to his puzzles, it's clear that the passage of time has proven him right, to this day at least.

[californiah]

Not familiar with the Miller beer cans, do you no what sites had these?

Just finished the new 4 part series and the Pepsi can and Cheezit box seem to work.

Also notice from the Punishment map "Come from". I think he is "linking" himself to VR and telling us to look at the origins of these plants.

Really impressed with Det. Clark from the Morf interviews. Progress i hope.