February, 2018 New Leads, by Morf13 (Part 2 of 2)

[cornbread]

Mar 7, 2018 2:40:58 GMT Drifter said:

Mar 6, 2018 20:41:08 GMT bob said:

Drifter et al.,
 
This is what I've said all along. This wasn't pursued back in the day because the cops had a dragnet/CHiPS/Adam 12/Starsky & Hutch mentality. They increased patrols. Literally: they increased patrols to catch EAR.

And in that climate, IF anyone in Sacramento was protecting EAR, that would have made it so much easier for him to stay free.
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But of course-the trap, a 7-11 clusterfuck, specifically warned EAR off from the one location where LE could have gotten a good look at him and maybe apprehended him.
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Reviewing these old burglaries is forcing them to rethink who he is. I don't think D. Clark sees him as generic, or as a low-life. All witness accounts show him as a poncy dresser. He clearly wasn't stupid. I do believe he has an ageless appearance and probably looked 19-26 for about 20 years. 

Here's my question: Where is the 1973 corvette abduction police report? why is it missing?

Michelle M. said it had been thrown out. But why?  All the other 1973 police reports are there (all 30,000+ of them that Clark surfed online). So why is the 1973 corvette assault report missing? Was it thrown out? Or is it misfiled in May of 1974 by chance? Or is only that report, among all the other thousands of police reports, missing for 1973? Because if Det. Clark can't find that one police report, what happened to it?. Its absence strongly suggests that someone intentionally removed it from the trove. In which case someone with access to the police reports (legally or otherwise) was protecting him.

The 7-11 incident is interesting.  I wonder if the cop who failed to wear plain clothes and therefore alerted the potential EAR, had been in contact with someone above him, organizationally, to deliberately spoil the trap.  And if so, who that someone was.

I disagree with your comment about Clark.  I think he would "prefer" that the EAR be a low-life, generic criminal, to take the heat, so to speak, off of Sacramento's 40 year handling of the case.  But, it would be encouraging if Clark is more open minded than I suspect.

So the corvette abduction police report is missing.  And MM says it was thrown out.  Why was it thrown out, when, and by whom?

These are the kinds of questions that need to be asked, not trivia questions about the EAR.

Drifter

Along those lines, you could have knocked me down with a feather when, on pages 240-243 in "I'll Be Gone In The Dark" (the straight interview section with Paul Holes), he repeatedly states he believes EAR to be a person of means: "Your common joe ain't flying an airplane." "It takes somebody with resources."

[cardinal]

Yes, I believe he was flying an airplane with the means to finance it from an out of state family source.

[trabuco]

Conveniently missing.

The first I ever heard of the corvette guy was from Shelby.

Shelby should know, I think, if 1973 wasn't before his time.

Shelby arrived in Sacramento about the same time the EAR did. Came from Rancho Cordova.

[trabuco]

Those wacky files.

[claudius_2014]

Mar 6, 2018 0:23:42 GMT morf13 said:

Mar 5, 2018 22:48:28 GMT luke said:

Hi Morf!

Thank you so much for the videos and work that you've put in. Incredible.

In your opinion, do you think EAR will be caught soon?

Thanks so much!

Thanks, I hope this case is solved soon

did the cat burglar 1973 ,used bicycle?

[ultranoia]

Mar 7, 2018 22:56:51 GMT cleopatra said:

I am frustrated as I am sure everyone else is. I have been searching the deeds records for more maybes. Almost all of the residents in the Paseo Malaga area were homeowners. More maybes for me, but it's all I have. He left Northern Cal in 1979. I found a couple of house sales in 1979. The EAR MAYBE lived with relatives, maybe not. Anyway, I then look for homeowner's who sold in Rancho Cordova who (usually homeowners buy again to avoid the capitol gain tax and because they like owning their homes and can afford to) also bought a home in Santa Barbara and Orange County in 1979 and 1980.

Are there records of families who lived on Mather AFB? I went to a Rancho Cordova Catholic school for a few years in the late '60s/early '70s, and I recall Mather AFB brats being bused in on a school bus painted flat military black. So another possibility (that I'm sure you and others have already considered) is that EAR lived on the base and commuted to Cordova Gardens Elementary or Cordova High. 

[dolores]

The East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer called into Contact Counseling Services and said he had been in Stockton State Hospital. That was on 1/6/78. Said he wanted to stop raping then he got angry and hung up. The were two attacks in Stockton, Ca. The first one on 9/6/77 was 16 miles away from the hospital. The attack happened 4 months before his phone call. The second attack in Stockton was on 3/18/78; that was 2 months after he made the phone call to Contact Counseling. That attack was 15 miles away from the hospital. Stockton State Hospital is closed now but all the patient information is kept and can be researched. Some of it is on microfilm. The first attack in Stockton was the first time the East Area Rapist attacked outside of Sacramento. An investigator can easily figure this out. Go look at the records of all the male patients at Stockton State Hospital between 9/77 to 3/78 that fit the profile. Then interview ones still alive or get their DNA somehow and solve this case. I lived in Rancho Cordova, CA for two years when he was attacking in 1978-1980. He needs to be caught.

[nick]

There is nothing wrong with current LE looking at leads that were dead-ended in the past because there was no further lead at that time many other things were learned after the fact and if it can be pushed further then it should be pursued. The things on this thread did dead end at that time but now with many more crimes connecting to EAR they can look at those important leads and see if they can be expanded upon. I have believed there was a connection of burglary and EAR type prowling etc in the 1972-1976 time frame and posted about them a very long ago so it's not a surprise to me that they are currently looking at those I am excited that it is finally being pursued. It also means to me I have been on the right track along and I truly believe those cases in the pre-sexual assault phase along with the begging attacks are the key to solving this.

[nick]

Mar 8, 2018 21:48:55 GMT ultranoia said:

Mar 7, 2018 22:56:51 GMT cleopatra said:

I am frustrated as I am sure everyone else is. I have been searching the deeds records for more maybes. Almost all of the residents in the Paseo Malaga area were homeowners. More maybes for me, but it's all I have. He left Northern Cal in 1979. I found a couple of house sales in 1979. The EAR MAYBE lived with relatives, maybe not. Anyway, I then look for homeowner's who sold in Rancho Cordova who (usually homeowners buy again to avoid the capitol gain tax and because they like owning their homes and can afford to) also bought a home in Santa Barbara and Orange County in 1979 and 1980.

Are there records of families who lived on Mather AFB? I went to a Rancho Cordova Catholic school for a few years in the late '60s/early '70s, and I recall Mather AFB brats being bused in on a school bus painted flat military black. So another possibility (that I'm sure you and others have already considered) is that EAR lived on the base and commuted to Cordova Gardens Elementary or Cordova High. 

There are ways of looking at families named in the Grapevine newspaper for instance but I don't think there is a complete list of everyone that was living on base available to the public. There are a few other tricks to looking for families that were there around that time but it's not a complete list at all unless someone knows something that I don't? Did you attend Saint John Vinney school?

[Drifter]

nick wrote:

There are ways of looking at families named in the Grapevine newspaper for instance but I don't think there is a complete list of everyone that was living on base available to the public. There are a few other tricks to looking for families that were there around that time but it's not a complete list at all unless someone knows something that I don't?

Anything that we can do to obtain the names of guys who were at Mather in the 1976 to 1979 time frame would be helpful. Or even just the names of the guys who were in the 320th division (or whichever division it was that had the drug smuggling) would be really helpful.

It's suspicious to me that the Air Force has kept their recent Maggiore investigation private. I know that many government documents are routinely classified. But the Maggiore case is a very public case that was never solved.

That the Air Force refuses to discuss the case conveys the impression that they are hiding something.

Drifter

[idiotmichael]

Mar 9, 2018 7:58:43 GMT Drifter said:

nick wrote:

There are ways of looking at families named in the Grapevine newspaper for instance but I don't think there is a complete list of everyone that was living on base available to the public. There are a few other tricks to looking for families that were there around that time but it's not a complete list at all unless someone knows something that I don't?

Anything that we can do to obtain the names of guys who were at Mather in the 1976 to 1979 time frame would be helpful. Or even just the names of the guys who were in the 320th division (or whichever division it was that had the drug smuggling) would be really helpful.

It's suspicious to me that the Air Force has kept their recent Maggiore investigation private. I know that many government documents are routinely classified. But the Maggiore case is a very public case that was never solved.

That the Air Force refuses to discuss the case conveys the impression that they are hiding something.

Drifter

In regards to the Air Forces investigation of the Maggiore case, I thought Paul Holes said that it was LE’s case because it happened in their jurisdiction and the Air Force was merely assisting? Maybe they aren’t hiding anything but rather know jack * about who could’ve done in the Maggiores?

I do think it’s suspicious and I feel like they are hiding the drug mule investigation from the public.

[hoth]

Mar 9, 2018 12:11:06 GMT idiotmichael said:

Mar 9, 2018 7:58:43 GMT Drifter said:

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I do think it’s suspicious and I feel like they are hiding the drug mule investigation from the public.

I totally agree that the Air Force’s reluctance to share anything probably has much more to do with the drug ring than anything related to EAR.

[spiderimalright]

Somewhat off-topic but wrt to the recent info dump excerpt:

Only one other cat burglary series (albeit brief, and with a different M.O.) was occurring simultaneous to this series. When caught, the suspects in that case said they saw the success the cat burglar of Rancho Cordova was having, and thought it was an easy crime to commit (for them it wasn't.)

I'm really curious about this case. Multiple offenders in a team saw the success of the RC cat burglar and thought it would be an easy crime to commit? Seems odd on multiple levels. Were they kids or something? Why did they think it was easy? How were they evaluating the success of the RC cat burglar? Were they also hot prowling? Were they acting for-profit? Did they have a fence? Have they been re-questioned recently? Are we certain they didn't know the RC cat burglar personally?

[MJP]

Mar 9, 2018 16:13:03 GMT spiderimalright said:

Somewhat off-topic but wrt to the recent info dump excerpt:

Only one other cat burglary series (albeit brief, and with a different M.O.) was occurring simultaneous to this series. When caught, the suspects in that case said they saw the success the cat burglar of Rancho Cordova was having, and thought it was an easy crime to commit (for them it wasn't.)

I'm really curious about this case. Multiple offenders in a team saw the success of the RC cat burglar and thought it would be an easy crime to commit? Seems odd on multiple levels. Were they kids or something? Why did they think it was easy? How were they evaluating the success of the RC cat burglar? Were they also hot prowling? Were they acting for-profit? Did they have a fence? Have they been re-questioned recently? Are we certain they didn't know the RC cat burglar personally?

Like your name!

You should add your questions to the 'Ken Clark Q&A' thread.

[ultranoia]

Mar 9, 2018 5:51:44 GMT nick said:

Mar 8, 2018 21:48:55 GMT ultranoia said:

Are there records of families who lived on Mather AFB? I went to a Rancho Cordova Catholic school for a few years in the late '60s/early '70s, and I recall Mather AFB brats being bused in on a school bus painted flat military black. So another possibility (that I'm sure you and others have already considered) is that EAR lived on the base and commuted to Cordova Gardens Elementary or Cordova High. 

There are ways of looking at families named in the Grapevine newspaper for instance but I don't think there is a complete list of everyone that was living on base available to the public. There are a few other tricks to looking for families that were there around that time but it's not a complete list at all unless someone knows something that I don't? Did you attend Saint John Vinney school?

Yes, I attended St. John Vianney from first grade to fourth grade.