Would we be executing the same guy?
Jun 4, 2018 22:23:39 GMT
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Post by nutmeg on Jun 4, 2018 22:23:39 GMT
It is obvious that the philosophical question raised by the OP, and brilliantly responded to by Johnpaul and Justasking, is too subtle and intelligent for many members to grasp. The Ship of Theseus analogy was spot-on. I knew it was a matter of time before the pitchforks came out and the mindless rabble would attack. No one is saying JJD isn't guilty or that he should get a slap on the wrist. The greater question posed by the OP goes well beyond that. If I bathe in the River Jordan, can it be said that I entered the same river as Jesus? The easy answer is yes. But the waters have ebbed and the SPECIFIC water that I entered is not the same the water that Jesus entered. Things change, even if the structures appear to be the same. Sure, JJD should be punished. And sure, JJD is the same vessel that committed the crimes years ago. But is it really the same person? That is the question that the OP posits, and it was quite brave and intellectually stimulating. It is irrelevant whether JJD started feeding the homeless or became a rape counselor. The specific manner in which he changed is not the point. The point is a philosophical distinction between what we are and what we were. Am I still the same baby my mother bore? The answer is yes...and no.
He said - we all come from the same life and we will all return to that life but as we spread out the difference is in the divinity.
Two people can experience very bad things but the difference in what they do with it is also in how they see it. Divinity.
When I see a picture of JJD walking into court smiling you cannot convince me he's a new man. An even more evil man?
I stick with what I said after his first court appear. He’s a reptile who has worn a mask of sanity that’s now slipping.
No offense to reptiles.