Yes, the Riverside desk poem was signed "RH". Very strange coincidence. But did Richard Hoffman go to Riverside College? His full name is Richard Lee Hoffman, born in 1938. He was in the Navy. I have yet to locate where he was born, it does not appear to be California as he does not come up on Ancestry's California Birth Index. He lived in San Diego in 1959. Not sure when he moved to Vallejo. We need Morf on this one!
Wouldn't it be something if the Zodiac was a cop, and he framed Arthur Leigh Allen?
Was there not a 911 call to police from some people across the street from the Stine murder? The police dispatcher then issues an 'Be On Lookout' for "a black male" to all policemen?
This too would have aided the Zodiac's escape.
We may never know but it seems like the Zodiac knew that mistake in description had been made.
Yes it was, unbelievably, initially reported as a black male - the two officers stop who we believe is the Zodiac. However they arrive at the scene and it is fairly quickly corrected to a white male so the two officers after a description is given realise they've just stopped the killer or at least someone they should of took in for questioning at least.
So at this point they've let the killer go - they have no idea until Z sends his letter the next day that it's the one of the most wanted men in country - The Zodiac. It was Z and Z alone that implicated himself in that murder and my point is he could of avoided that comoposite drawing ever being associated with him. (Which most criminals who don't want to be caught probably would of done.) This tells me he wanted that drawing to be released.
So what made him so confident, that he could let LE put a face to the Zodiac and still not get caught? As it stands we'll never know.
The most logical for me is as he said himself in the letter; he was wearing a disguise and how he looked normally looked nothing like the drawing.
Either way I've never heard of a serial killer, who so often literally 'puts it on a plate for the police.' He calls the police on himself, how many other serial killers do you know of that call the police on themselves then send letters detailing crimes and taunting police?
His arrogance and confidence in not being caught ultimately is what makes me believe he either was a cop on the inside commiting crimes, was a former cop or was active in the military.
All great points. He clearly risked everything with this set up and taking credit for it.
As one poster said he "Endorses" the Stine composite with his letter "it looks like me when doing my thing"
What better way to "Reset" the other- "Berryessa composite", especially if this one hit close to home.
Also LE dispatch releases the BOLO for a black male. Could this have originally been called in from the taxi company dispatch?
Zodiac is witnessed reaching into front seat after shot fired.
Possible scenario? - Zodiac makes five second call to taxi dispatch as Stine- "robbery in progress, black male" anyone in LE would have had a general knowledge of response times and this would have given him precious minutes.
Many years ago, on another board dedicated to the Zodiac crimes, I asked the question, "how did the mix up occur in regards to the call going out that it was a black man", but never got an answer. We know the kids phoned in a call of a white male. We know the operator initially sent out a description as a black male, and quickly changed it to a white male. My question has always been why did the operator initially say a black male. Was that what he or she was told, did he/she just assume it was a black male, was an erroneous description phoned in ? It would appear that this is a piece of information that the police have never clarified, possible intentionally ? Maybe they were embarrassed or maybe it is a piece of information that only the killer might know, I really don't know.
Proficient in firearms, control tactics, that damn flashlight in your face, I'm wondering if he knew the average response time for the police responding to Washington and cherry and he's counting down the seconds as he's wiping the cab? The type of skills needed for what this guy did would be police/military.
That is another big Cop clue just as with JJD and Deputy Randy Comeaux. The flashlight in the eyes. Thanks for mentioning that.
The Zodiac Killer was even experimenting with attaching a flashlight to his firearm.
Necessity is the mother of invention. The Zodiac Killer was efficiency minded. It's all about staying free. Escaping.
Funny you mention "attaching a flashlight to his firearm", it instantly made me think of JJD placing plates on the backs of people as a early warning system. both killers were very skilled in using everyday household items to aid in their crimes.
I’ve always thought he had some kind of connection to the Letterman Army hospital. Donna Lass was a nurse there. Most of his letters were traced to mailboxes in the Presidio neighborhood. After the Paul Stine murder he escaped pretty easily. Also, another employee from the hospital was murdered Rosa Vasquez.
bri_bri_: Happy Thanksgiving All! My brother survived the virus (he caught it last month--he has weak immune system from cancer) and is still alive! I am thankful that he is still able to celebrate with his wife and kid, even if we don't get to celebrate together.
Nov 26, 2020 21:24:36 GMT
bri_bri_: He's a good guy but didn't think the virus was a real thing (he also didn't think the moon landing was real...which was weird). I feel bad for him because the medical bills are crazy insane.
Nov 26, 2020 21:30:36 GMT
steelbike: The night before last, I watched a documentary about the Donner party. Manifest destiny gone wrong. Everyone chill! Happy Thanksgiving.
Nov 26, 2020 22:02:46 GMT
steelbike: Happy Thanksgiving bri_bri!
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elir: Hey bri_bri, glad your brother made it, hope his recovery is going well.
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steelbike: Happy Thanksgiving ralphman!
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goldrusher: I'm happy to say all my Christmas shopping is done for the year. All online, of course.
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pod: Goldrusher, I didn't know you could buy Bentley Continentals online. Will they just park it by my front door or what?
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