DeAngelo in the 1980s - truth or fiction?

[pod]

Watched this video on youtube that outlines DeAngelo's crimes. Among the comments below the video was this tantalising post. The poster's name on youtube is  "King of Nerdzz". Could be an informed troll post of course. Then again...

This is a link to the video.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF77K6QgnIE

This is a copy 'n' paste of King of Nerdzz's post.

"This case will bother me to my grave because I might have been of some help in solving it, but I couldn't remember his name.

I was working as a security guard in the early to mid 80's. One night I was assigned to take over at a sprawling motel called the Holiday Inn on 47th Ave. in South Sacramento. I worked one graveyard shift with the guy who'd been working there before me. That was Joe. Nobody liked him there, except for the chef, who was a fellow Viet Nam vet with PTSD problems. I later learned that the female employees had been complaining about what a creep he was. That's why he was being transferred to Lone Star Industries, a quarry on White Rock Road in Rancho, where he'd have limited contact with clients. He seemed to be alright with this arrangement.

We spent that night together, just walking & talking. Mostly about fishing. We seemed to get along at first. At one point he asked me to look after the chef, & told me about his emotional problems. Which I was happy to do. He mentioned his time in the Navy, where he'd injured his hand. He didn't go into much detail or tell me much about himself, but I think he might have mentioned his commuting from Auburn.

What came next is the only reason I remembered that night. We were sitting in his station wagon, drinking coffee when I mentioned my obsession with the unsolved Zodiac mystery. California's own Jack The Ripper. He didn't think much of the Zodiac. He said the guy didn't deserve his rep. Joe paused & deliberated over his next words. I think we both regretted his decision to take the conversation in a much darker direction.

He looked at me & asked if I remembered the EAR. That gave me shivers. I wondered why he'd bring that guy up. "That was a scary guy," I said. I'd been following the news reports at the time, but had lost track due to the demands of high school. I said that EAR was a very prolific, but just seemed to stop suddenly. He asked me what I thought might have happened to him. I guessed that the guy might be dead, or in prison on other charged. He seemed amused. He told me that he knew who EAR was. That he'd travelled to Southern Calif. That he was now killing his victims. That he had a much higher kill-count than Zodiac & Jack combined. This stunned me. I began to wonder about the guy sitting next to me. He picked up on this & started to exaplain away his statements to me. He claimed that he was acquainted with EAR because he, himself, had been a suspect, but was cleared by a blood test. He hated cops & wouldn't tip them off because they'd treated him harshly under interrogation.

I mentioned EAR's small dick & suggested that might be why he hated women so much. He shook his head & dismissed such claims as no more than the police playing head-games with this guy in the hopes of tripping him up.

I wondered if I might be in danger at this point, but reasoned that it would be highly unlikely that EAR would still be in Sac working as a motel rent-a-cop. I decided that Joe was probably just a BSer, like so many other creeps I worked with.

He could read me like a book & seemed to relax a bit. We were both happy to change the subject. He showed my a gun he kept under the seat. He removed the clip & ejected the round before handing it to me for closer inspection. Like an idiot I put my fingerprints all over it. We went back to talking about fishing, guns & other stuff. I noticed that his car looked lived in & wondered it he might be sleeping in it.

I never saw him again. I pushed this night to the back of my mind until I learned about the DNA connection to the ONS. By then I'd forgotten his name & face. I've been racking my brain for that until his capture. No thanks to me. It's a terrible thing to live with."

[rgnnbld]

holy wow. incredible.

[otis1]

pod my friend, don't even give this drivel a second thought. It's pure nonsense. The internet is filled with abject losers and nowhere more so than YouTube. The comment sections are filled with people claiming to be someone's child or cousin or ex or whatever.


The pathetic loser that wrote this oddball fantasy needs a shrink. Put it in the same category of demented loserdom as that weirdo who "confessed" to the JonBennet Ramsey murder a few years ago and got a free flight home from wherever the heck he was living in Asia. 

[pod]

Yes I'm very suspicious of course. The only significant part refers to a Holiday Inn in South Sac. and a Lone Star Industries quarry on White Rock Rd, Rancho Cordova.

[walter]

I mean in all likelihood it's some bored guy making up a story for attention. I wouldn't give it a second of attention until LE says otherwise.

I mean the thing even reads like one of those trashy creepy pasta stories untalented writers come up with.

[warren]

It just doesn't pass the smell test. Of course, I've been wrong about everything in this case.

[cherylh]

Anytime a high-profile case is solved and the perpetrator arrested, people step forward with stories like this. Most of them unsubstantiated, most of them unable to be debunked or verified because there's no evidence one way or the other.

There are also people who step forward with stories about having been victims of the perpetrator, or almost victims.

Some of these people might believe they did have a contact. Many others are caught up in the excitement and focus directed to these cases and cannot resist trying to claim a personal connection.

[otis1]

May 2, 2019 17:22:51 GMT warren said:

It just doesn't pass the smell test. Of course, I've been wrong about everything in this case.

No it doesn't pass the smell test, and I should know I have a big nose. 

[spodey]

I like the story and thought it was well told. It is still just a story waiting to be confirmed.

I believe that somewhere in the "missing years" there is an LE or Security Company (perhaps armored car service or late night document pick up service) connection with JJD.  Before the grocery chain mechanic saga begins.

  

[johnnyhands1]

May 2, 2019 14:58:58 GMT pod said:

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I never saw him again. I pushed this night to the back of my mind until I learned about the DNA connection to the ONS. By then I'd forgotten his name & face. I've been racking my brain for that until his capture. No thanks to me. It's a terrible thing to live with."

You said you can't remember his face, but can you remember approximately how tall he was - say, compared to your own height as you stood there talking to him face to face - could he have been around 5'11" tall?  Also, did he have a somewhat high male voice (which is what I gather JDD has/had?)

[rgnnbld]

May 2, 2019 15:55:32 GMT pod said:

Yes I'm very suspicious of course. The only significant part refers to a Holiday Inn in South Sac. and a Lone Star Industries quarry on White Rock Rd, Rancho Cordova.

Also; “station wagon”.

Will we ever find out if JJD owned/drove a station wagon in the 1980s? Probably not.

I’m so bored with this thing having no new info, I’m just gonna believe this guys story.

[ralphman]

he mentioned the small "you know what" but was it common knowledge back then that EARONS had a small "you know what"

[mark]

Look, when he learned about the ONS connection, that was proof that JJD was the EAR. So even if he didn’t remember his name, he would have ran to his former employer and to the police to find out. Also, I think there was a reward for hints leading to his capture.
Also, I don’t think JJD would make comments like that, he escaped capture for a reason. Totally made up imo.

[V]

May 2, 2019 14:58:58 GMT pod said:

Watched this video on youtube that outlines DeAngelo's crimes. Among the comments below the video was this tantalising post. The poster's name on youtube is  "King of Nerdzz". Could be an informed troll post of course. Then again...

This is a link to the video.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF77K6QgnIE

This is a copy 'n' paste of King of Nerdzz's post.

"This case will bother me to my grave because I might have been of some help in solving it, but I couldn't remember his name.

I was working as a security guard in the early to mid 80's. One night I was assigned to take over at a sprawling motel called the Holiday Inn on 47th Ave. in South Sacramento. I worked one graveyard shift with the guy who'd been working there before me. That was Joe. Nobody liked him there, except for the chef, who was a fellow Viet Nam vet with PTSD problems. I later learned that the female employees had been complaining about what a creep he was. That's why he was being transferred to Lone Star Industries, a quarry on White Rock Road in Rancho, where he'd have limited contact with clients. He seemed to be alright with this arrangement.

We spent that night together, just walking & talking. Mostly about fishing. We seemed to get along at first. At one point he asked me to look after the chef, & told me about his emotional problems. Which I was happy to do. He mentioned his time in the Navy, where he'd injured his hand. He didn't go into much detail or tell me much about himself, but I think he might have mentioned his commuting from Auburn.

What came next is the only reason I remembered that night. We were sitting in his station wagon, drinking coffee when I mentioned my obsession with the unsolved Zodiac mystery. California's own Jack The Ripper. He didn't think much of the Zodiac. He said the guy didn't deserve his rep. Joe paused & deliberated over his next words. I think we both regretted his decision to take the conversation in a much darker direction.

He looked at me & asked if I remembered the EAR. That gave me shivers. I wondered why he'd bring that guy up. "That was a scary guy," I said. I'd been following the news reports at the time, but had lost track due to the demands of high school. I said that EAR was a very prolific, but just seemed to stop suddenly. He asked me what I thought might have happened to him. I guessed that the guy might be dead, or in prison on other charged. He seemed amused. He told me that he knew who EAR was. That he'd travelled to Southern Calif. That he was now killing his victims. That he had a much higher kill-count than Zodiac & Jack combined. This stunned me. I began to wonder about the guy sitting next to me. He picked up on this & started to exaplain away his statements to me. He claimed that he was acquainted with EAR because he, himself, had been a suspect, but was cleared by a blood test. He hated cops & wouldn't tip them off because they'd treated him harshly under interrogation.

I mentioned EAR's small dick & suggested that might be why he hated women so much. He shook his head & dismissed such claims as no more than the police playing head-games with this guy in the hopes of tripping him up.

I wondered if I might be in danger at this point, but reasoned that it would be highly unlikely that EAR would still be in Sac working as a motel rent-a-cop. I decided that Joe was probably just a BSer, like so many other creeps I worked with.

He could read me like a book & seemed to relax a bit. We were both happy to change the subject. He showed my a gun he kept under the seat. He removed the clip & ejected the round before handing it to me for closer inspection. Like an idiot I put my fingerprints all over it. We went back to talking about fishing, guns & other stuff. I noticed that his car looked lived in & wondered it he might be sleeping in it.

I never saw him again. I pushed this night to the back of my mind until I learned about the DNA connection to the ONS. By then I'd forgotten his name & face. I've been racking my brain for that until his capture. No thanks to me. It's a terrible thing to live with."

I'm not buying it. Too much detail to remember from a conversation forty years ago. 

[eggirl]

May 3, 2019 2:35:40 GMT mark said:

Look, when he learned about the ONS connection, that was proof that JJD was the EAR. So even if he didn’t remember his name, he would have ran to his former employer and to the police to find out. Also, I think there was a reward for hints leading to his capture.
Also, I don’t think JJD would make comments like that, he escaped capture for a reason. Totally made up imo.

Mark, I totally agree with both your points.   DeAngelo escaped identification for 42 years precisely because he didn't have conversations like this.--Sacramento Survivor