Bridge Guy Video

[elir]

Aug 19, 2019 11:55:49 GMT socalkyle said:

He could of easily parked his Semi at the Remington Truck stop and then drove from there to Delphi. The only thing to me that does not make sense is why he would be wearing the same jacket after the fact. Being that late in the day obviously it didn’t happen after the subway encounter. So if it was him why still wear the jacket? Maybe he thought he hid his tracks so well he didn’t think about the jacket? And most definitely wasn’t expecting to see himself on the news afterwards wearing the jacket. If police followed up on this it would of been right after it happed which now is approaching 2.5 years. Probably couldn’t find a record of any driver for a gas company that matched him, people at the gas station probably never noticed anyone, but what about the cameras? Something’s off here..

Honestly, I think a lot of men  look like image we have of the killer, but her report seems honest. She saw this guy and his actions, ones' that might usually be seen as kind, end up seeming suspicious in retrospect because of the timing . Does that mean he is the killer? No. But what are the possibilities?

1.They had thousands of tips called in, lets hope she passed on the information as clearly as she did in her facebook post, otherwise perhaps LE didn't fully investigate it. 

2.If you assume it is the killer - then if he dunked his jacket in the river after the murder washing off blood and fluids, and then dried it in the vehicle on the way to the truck stop, would if look okay? No idea.

3. f he was at the rest stop when she stated then he must have left the site at Delphi by 4pm. Based on the report of a vehicle at the CPS building between noon and 5pm, perhaps LE has a better idea of the time line that rules out this woman's report as being the killer.

How did I find the truck stop and the stores at the stop?

search terms: indiana truck stop I-65 yields www.findfuelstops.com/truck-stop-on-I-65

Looking at places a distance of 40-45 miles from Delphi, I used:

www.mapdevelopers.com/draw-circle-tool.php

[lucy999]

My take on the video and Bridge Guy in general is:

He's wearing a short brim brownish/khaki or camo hat. A hoodie under his navy jacket with the hood bunched around the back of his jacket neck. There's a whitish scarf creating bulk around the neck area of his jacket. He's wearing a leather colored sling style fanny pack/bag, probably crossbody style with the strap on his left shoulder under his jacket. It's the lump created by the bag that causes his jacket to bulge and the hem to ride up over it.

His right hand doesn't align properly in relation to his body to be in any possible pocket except maybe back jeans pocket. To me it looks more like he's holding his hand behind his back. Maybe preparing to brandish whatever weapon, knife/gun that he used to subdue the girls. His left hand is on his hip, maybe to help draw the eye away and distract from the fact he's holding something behind his back as he approaches them.

His jeans are too long and unhemmed. Suggests a shorter guy. In the stabilized video of him the knees of his jeans seem stretched, like these are old pants he's spent a lot of time sitting in. I assume any guy wearing a hat is bald/balding... but maybe it was just a disguise...

He doesn't appear to be walking the bridge with any degree of speed or confidence. Are we sure he crossed the bridge at all and wasn't loitering around the start, waiting for them to come back and pass him on the bridge before following them the last few yards?

He looks like a bird watcher. I spend a lot of time traversing the local hiking trails in my area and if I'd have seen him just out walking around that's probably what I would have assumed. They all seem to have a certain look and they all travel heavy. He's someone who is comfortable outdoors but probably not local. He's had a reason to be there before but isn't overly familiar with the area. I assume as the area is basically a nature reserve there is no hunting allowed?

[lucy999]

Something else I find interesting, BG was out wandering around a hiking trail on a Monday afternoon, and seen as early as about 1:30.... So, he's either unemployed, had the day off, work's seasonally and is mostly unemployed in winter months or works a job with strange hours...

[elir]

Jan 16, 2020 19:21:02 GMT lucy999 said:

Something else I find interesting, BG was out wandering around a hiking trail on a Monday afternoon, and seen as early as about 1:30.... So, he's either unemployed, had the day off, work's seasonally and is mostly unemployed in winter months or works a job with strange hours...

Could be unemployed or in a job where they travel , likes a trucker . People in health care can work shifts and there is a big meat packing factory in town that has shifts . LE is supposed to have looked into the workers there, though.

[elir]

Jan 16, 2020 18:53:07 GMT lucy999 said:

My take on the video and Bridge Guy in general is:

He's wearing a short brim brownish/khaki or camo hat. A hoodie under his navy jacket with the hood bunched around the back of his jacket neck. There's a whitish scarf creating bulk around the neck area of his jacket. He's wearing a leather colored sling style fanny pack/bag, probably crossbody style with the strap on his left shoulder under his jacket. It's the lump created by the bag that causes his jacket to bulge and the hem to ride up over it.

His right hand doesn't align properly in relation to his body to be in any possible pocket except maybe back jeans pocket. To me it looks more like he's holding his hand behind his back. Maybe preparing to brandish whatever weapon, knife/gun that he used to subdue the girls. His left hand is on his hip, maybe to help draw the eye away and distract from the fact he's holding something behind his back as he approaches them.

His jeans are too long and unhemmed. Suggests a shorter guy. In the stabilized video of him the knees of his jeans seem stretched, like these are old pants he's spent a lot of time sitting in. I assume any guy wearing a hat is bald/balding... but maybe it was just a disguise...

He doesn't appear to be walking the bridge with any degree of speed or confidence. Are we sure he crossed the bridge at all and wasn't loitering around the start, waiting for them to come back and pass him on the bridge before following them the last few yards?

He looks like a bird watcher. I spend a lot of time traversing the local hiking trails in my area and if I'd have seen him just out walking around that's probably what I would have assumed. They all seem to have a certain look and they all travel heavy. He's someone who is comfortable outdoors but probably not local. He's had a reason to be there before but isn't overly familiar with the area. I assume as the area is basically a nature reserve there is no hunting allowed?

In videos, photos, and accounts from people visiting the Monon high bridge it is clear that there are loose or missing boards making it a rather dangerous walk. He appears to be walking carefully but steadily across the bridge.
It’s is.very possible that he is a stranger to the place But it could be that he is a local person that is walking carefully because he knows he needs to be careful .

[Agent99 aka Sandia]

Jan 17, 2020 23:31:15 GMT elir said:

Jan 16, 2020 18:53:07 GMT lucy999 said:

My take on the video and Bridge Guy in general is:

He's wearing a short brim brownish/khaki or camo hat. A hoodie under his navy jacket with the hood bunched around the back of his jacket neck. There's a whitish scarf creating bulk around the neck area of his jacket. He's wearing a leather colored sling style fanny pack/bag, probably crossbody style with the strap on his left shoulder under his jacket. It's the lump created by the bag that causes his jacket to bulge and the hem to ride up over it.

His right hand doesn't align properly in relation to his body to be in any possible pocket except maybe back jeans pocket. To me it looks more like he's holding his hand behind his back. Maybe preparing to brandish whatever weapon, knife/gun that he used to subdue the girls. His left hand is on his hip, maybe to help draw the eye away and distract from the fact he's holding something behind his back as he approaches them.

His jeans are too long and unhemmed. Suggests a shorter guy. In the stabilized video of him the knees of his jeans seem stretched, like these are old pants he's spent a lot of time sitting in. I assume any guy wearing a hat is bald/balding... but maybe it was just a disguise...

He doesn't appear to be walking the bridge with any degree of speed or confidence. Are we sure he crossed the bridge at all and wasn't loitering around the start, waiting for them to come back and pass him on the bridge before following them the last few yards?

He looks like a bird watcher. I spend a lot of time traversing the local hiking trails in my area and if I'd have seen him just out walking around that's probably what I would have assumed. They all seem to have a certain look and they all travel heavy. He's someone who is comfortable outdoors but probably not local. He's had a reason to be there before but isn't overly familiar with the area. I assume as the area is basically a nature reserve there is no hunting allowed?

In videos, photos, and accounts from people visiting the Monon high bridge it is clear that there are loose or missing boards making it a rather dangerous walk. He appears to be walking carefully but steadily across the bridge.
It’s is.very possible that he is a stranger to the place But it could be that he is a local person that is walking carefully because he knows he needs to be careful .

The police and the families and the talking heads on the case all seem to think he is local.  They say that to be able to walk across that rickety bridge, which is soft and spongy with missing planks and with no side rails and is terrifying, that could not have been his first time walking across the bridge.  Next they say that the location of where the girl's were found was a spot that was not visible from anywhere, not the bridge, not the hill, not the nearby homes, or the road to the homes etc.  Then they agree this was premeditated and some people think the girls were not his exclusive target but that he was just laying in wait for anyone to happen by to be his victim.  

I don't think he was local. 

First of all I am thinking he didn't just spring forth one day to suddenly kill two little girls.  I think he has killed before.  Delphi is so tiny, that this alone makes me think he isn't local. 

They have him on film, they have his voice.  He would have been identified by now.   

What if he has a job that entails traveling,  for instance a trucker.  Maybe he travels regularly through Delphi and noticed the signs pointing to the nature trails and the Monon High Bridge.  Maybe he decided that was a good place to commit his depraved deeds and simply familiarized himself with the area.  

If that is the case I hope they are searching all states, including Alaska and even Canada places he might travel through on his job.

I find it hard to ignore the abduction/murders of Lyric Cook 10, and Elizabeth Collins 8 years old Evandsale, Iowa, 5 years before.  They were riding their bikes in a small town to a nature trail by Myers Lake.  Then they were found 5 months later at Seven Bridges Wildlife Park in a neighboring county.  Are these cases related or is just a coincidence. 

Is this killer a pedophile that has the M.O. of targeting kids, 2 kids, 2 girls, from nature trails? 

Other than Evansdale, I can't think of another similar case so what if Evansdale is just a coincidence and what if the killer doesn't have a specific victim type.  Does he attack women? boys? men? Does he not necessarily haunt nature trails?

[elir]

In the Scene of the Crime Delphi podcast , the new podcast being produced by Mike Morford, Gray Hughes and Kelsi German , they have an episode where they discuss the Evansdale murders . Nothing can be ruled out but my impression was that officials don’t think that these murders are connected ?

LE noted that there were things at the scene in Delphi that were “odd” But wont go into specifics are it is part of the info they are holding back . Perhaps these details are why they don’t think the two double murders are connected .
On the other hand, the girls in Evansdale weren’t found for some time so any staging at the scene could have been altered by animals and weather between the time of the murder and when they were found. This is only my own speculation based on those LE statements about the Delphi scene.

[Agent99 aka Sandia]

Jan 18, 2020 20:20:02 GMT @bribri said:

Jan 18, 2020 17:58:14 GMT Agent99 aka Sandia said:

What if he has a job that entails traveling,  for instance a trucker.  Maybe he travels regularly through Delphi and noticed the signs pointing to the nature trails and the Monon High Bridge.  Maybe he decided that was a good place to commit his depraved deeds and simply familiarized himself with the area.  

Not that you would know, but do truckers stop there often? If not then someone like a trucker would have his rig in plain view for everyone to see and that might be a clue (you have to park that huge truck somewhere, right?) I don't think it's a truck stop, but I don't know. I don't think he was dressed like a corporate traveler. Just trying to narrow down suspects, you know.

I thought there was a vehicle that the police wanted to know about but I don't think it was a trucker rig. I don't think Amazon was hiring delivery drivers back then and I think Fedex or UPS probably used designated trucks back then.

I'm sure there is a lot of trucking to service the local businesses.   The Monon High Bridge is right off the Highway 25, The Hoosier Heartland Highway and about 16 miles from Interstate 65. 

The Indiana Meat Packers is pretty interesting.  www.in.gov/idoc/files/Indiana%20Packer%20Companys.pdf  Notice they are also located in Evansdale, Iowa.  If you look at the map it is incredibly close to the Monon High Bridge.  I wonder if LE has looked into crimes near their various locations.  Any children kidnapped by strangers? Murders?  

About parking the truck,  I don't know.  Perhaps he parked it where lots of truckers parked and then walked?  (I think he would have been seen though.)   If he was a trucker perhaps he carry a motor scooter n the cargo area.  Could it be he hid it in bushes near the crime scene?  It's actually amazing how only two people saw BG. 

There is mention of a car that was parked near the abandoned CPS building.  I think police believe it was his car but I don't think they know that.  I've heard that a woman offered to help a young man she thought was having car trouble but he told her he was waiting for his father.  Is that the car? Is that where the second sketch came from?  Could it be true that he was waiting for his father and had nothing to do with the crime?  By the way, BG was caught on Libby's phone.  Two witnesses contributed to the original sketch and that sketch looked like the film of BG.  I kind of am doubting the second sketch.    I know I don't have all the info LE has but it doesn't seem to make sense and LE keeps changing their story.  They first said BG is the killer.  Then they said to disregard the first sketch, then they say it could be a combination of the two sketches. 

Anyway, I'm not saying he was necessarily a trucker, maybe he was someone that traveled for work in a regular car.  

The way he was dressed....did he always dress that way?  Could he have been some sort of traveling salesman and did he change into those clothes.  Were those clothes he used to hunt or fish?

 

[Agent99 aka Sandia]

Jan 18, 2020 21:44:50 GMT elir said:

In the Scene of the Crime Delphi podcast , the new podcast being produced by Mike Morford, Gray Hughes and Kelsi German , they have an episode where they discuss the Evansdale murders . Nothing can be ruled out but my impression was that officials don’t think that these murders are connected ?

LE noted that there were things at the scene in Delphi that were “odd” But wont go into specifics are it is part of the info they are holding back . Perhaps these details are why they don’t think the two double murders are connected .
On the other hand, the girls in Evansdale weren’t found for some time so any staging at the scene could have been altered by animals and weather between the time of the murder and when they were found. This is only my own speculation based on those LE statements about the Delphi scene.

Yes, I've heard that LE doesn't think they are connected.  But do they know for a fact?   Nobody saw the girls being abducted in Evansdale.  When the Evansdale girls were found they were skeletonized.  Could they tell the manner of death?  Perhaps.  If the girls in Delphi were killed with a knife and the Evansdale girls bludgeoned or killed with a gun maybe that is why.  However,  I read that they couldn't tell how the girls in Evansdale were killed but I don't remember where i read it so it's hard to know if that is reliable info. 

The things they are holding back that only the killer would know, I'm also wondering about.  One of the people that found the girls, a relative of one of the girls and a firefighter has been talking and apparently copies of his private messages have been released.  In that link I furnished to the interview of Anthony Greeno a lot of info came out.  Are those private messages really from him?  If so then the cat is out of the bag.  Lots of people know.   I won't repeat it here but what he said did indicate some weird stuff.  Libby seemed to be the target.  She was close to being decapitated he said and there was a scarf around her neck in the casket.  So there are some things that seem to validate some of the things he said. Some of these weird things might be an important thing for the public to know.  Perhaps someone will recognize the weird behavior and it could generate a tip. 

[elir]

Jan 19, 2020 4:38:05 GMT Agent99 aka Sandia said:

Jan 18, 2020 21:44:50 GMT elir said:

In the Scene of the Crime Delphi podcast , the new podcast being produced by Mike Morford, Gray Hughes and Kelsi German , they have an episode where they discuss the Evansdale murders . Nothing can be ruled out but my impression was that officials don’t think that these murders are connected ?

LE noted that there were things at the scene in Delphi that were “odd” But wont go into specifics are it is part of the info they are holding back . Perhaps these details are why they don’t think the two double murders are connected .
On the other hand, the girls in Evansdale weren’t found for some time so any staging at the scene could have been altered by animals and weather between the time of the murder and when they were found. This is only my own speculation based on those LE statements about the Delphi scene.

Yes, I've heard that LE doesn't think they are connected.  But do they know for a fact?   Nobody saw the girls being abducted in Evansdale.  When the Evansdale girls were found they were skeletonized.  Could they tell the manner of death?  Perhaps.  If the girls in Delphi were killed with a knife and the Evansdale girls bludgeoned or killed with a gun maybe that is why.  I though I'd read that they couldn't tell how the girls in Evansdale were killed though but I'm not sure about that.  

The things they are holding back that only the killer would know, I'm also wondering about.  One of the people that found the girls has been talking and copies of his private messages have been released.  In that link I furnished to the interview of Anthony Greeno a lot of info came out.  Is it accurate? Locals know but I suspect that it is because one of the people that found the girls is a relative and a local fire fighter.  I won't repeat it here but what he said did indicate some weird stuff.  Libby seemed to be the target.  She was close to being decapitated he said and there was a scarf around her neck in the casket.  So there are some things that seem to validate some of the things he said "if" those messages were indeed from him.  Anyway if the cat is out of the bag, and it isn't true that only the killer would know these things, why don't they release that info.  Some of these weird things might trigger a memory for somebody that could furnish a tip.  

We dont know for sure what info LE has to make them  believe that Evansdale is unlikely to be related and , of course, they could be wrong.

When looking at good sources of info,however,  I would be very cautious about anything coming from Greeno that isnt verified by a second source, as he does not have a good reputation. In my opinion, Mike Morford's new podcast seems most reputable if only because Libby German's sister, Kelsi, is co-producing it .

[Agent99 aka Sandia]

Jan 19, 2020 5:07:03 GMT elir said:

Jan 19, 2020 4:38:05 GMT Agent99 aka Sandia said:

Yes, I've heard that LE doesn't think they are connected.  But do they know for a fact?   Nobody saw the girls being abducted in Evansdale.  When the Evansdale girls were found they were skeletonized.  Could they tell the manner of death?  Perhaps.  If the girls in Delphi were killed with a knife and the Evansdale girls bludgeoned or killed with a gun maybe that is why.  I though I'd read that they couldn't tell how the girls in Evansdale were killed though but I'm not sure about that.  

The things they are holding back that only the killer would know, I'm also wondering about.  One of the people that found the girls has been talking and copies of his private messages have been released.  In that link I furnished to the interview of Anthony Greeno a lot of info came out.  Is it accurate? Locals know but I suspect that it is because one of the people that found the girls is a relative and a local fire fighter.  I won't repeat it here but what he said did indicate some weird stuff.  Libby seemed to be the target.  She was close to being decapitated he said and there was a scarf around her neck in the casket.  So there are some things that seem to validate some of the things he said "if" those messages were indeed from him.  Anyway if the cat is out of the bag, and it isn't true that only the killer would know these things, why don't they release that info.  Some of these weird things might trigger a memory for somebody that could furnish a tip.  

We dont know for sure what info LE has to make them  believe that Evansdale is unlikely to be related and , of course, they could be wrong.

When looking at good sources of info,however,  I would be very cautious about anything coming from Greeno that isnt verified by a second source, as he does not have a good reputation. In my opinion, Mike Morford's new podcast seems most reputable if only because Libby German's sister, Kelsi, is co-producing it .

Greeno has a past and he explains it on the first link.  I think he is very up front about it, I think he made mistakes, was young and I think he has grown.  It's just my personal opinion on him but I think he has a good heart, and has done really good work.  Being local has enabled him to know whose who, and a lot of information because of it.  On the other hand Gray Hughes, in my personal opinion, is horrid.  People can listen to him and judge for themselves.  He does have the trust of Kelsi and her family, why I don't know, but that's up to them. He has done some good work on the case from his home in Oregon (or is it Washington), measuring distances, figuring out times of day and location by the shadow cast by the sun etc. 

So far the podcast has nothing new, except the mention of geocashing.  I will keep listening in the hope that something new will come out.

[elir]

I think Hughes has s big ego but the video reconstructions are thought provoking and at least somewhat useful. But I don’t think he is a great person.

I’ve been back and forth on greeno because some of his info seems okay but others seem to be exaggeration of lying . he’s claimed that LE took his phone and won’t return it because they think he may have evidence on it ( like he interviewed someone significant .

The thing is LE would need a warrant for that which should be in the public record. If they obtain the phone they should be able to extract digital information and then wipe the phone and return it . So his claim is suspect and that’s one reason why I’m wary of him.

The geocaching thing is not new, since early on the family has mentioned this .

The podcast has several unique bits of info or confirmationof info that was previously only considered rumor:
the recording of searchers announcing over the radio that they found underwear in the water under the bridge is genuine . But there is no confirmation that the clothes belonged to the girls . -
That the scene of crime likely was staged in some way “odd” . This is the first time that LE or the DA s office has acknowledged those rumors .

That they looked at cell phone use that day within a 5 mile radius of the murders and contacted people based on cell phone data to rule them out. There were local stories about people having LE check because their phones were detected in the area but there had no been no previous confirmation that this happened or how big a net was cast.

I find the cell phone info most interesting if all . Let’s say the killer left his phone where he has parked his car, they still would have detected it in the area and contacted him to follow up.

That leaves us several scenarios
1. His phone was detected and LE already talked to him or someone near him ( a spouses phone ?) when they followed up on cell use. But he had an alibi.
2.. His phone was detected but for some reason LE never was able to contacted him during follow up,
3. His phone was not detected because he had it turned off within a 5 miles radius of the kill site for the entire period preceding the crime , during the crime, and after the crime.
4. He does not own a phone.

[Agent99 aka Sandia]

Jan 19, 2020 21:06:03 GMT elir said:

I think Hughes has s big ego but the video reconstructions are thought provoking and at least somewhat useful. But I don’t think he is a great person.

I’ve been back and forth on greeno because some of his info seems okay but others seem to be exaggeration of lying . he’s claimed that LE took his phone and won’t return it because they think he may have evidence on it ( like he interviewed someone significant .

The thing is LE would need a warrant for that which should be in the public record. If they obtain the phone they should be able to extract digital information and then wipe the phone and return it . So his claim is suspect and that’s one reason why I’m wary of him.

The geocaching thing is not new, since early on the family has mentioned this .

The podcast has several unique bits of info or confirmationof info that was previously only considered rumor:
the recording of searchers announcing over the radio that they found underwear in the water under the bridge is genuine . But there is no confirmation that the clothes belonged to the girls . -
That the scene of crime likely was staged in some way “odd” . This is the first time that LE or the DA s office has acknowledged those rumors .

That they looked at cell phone use that day within a 5 mile radius of the murders and contacted people based on cell phone data to rule them out. There were local stories about people having LE check because their phones were detected in the area but there had no been no previous confirmation that this happened or how big a net was cast.

I find the cell phone info most interesting if all . Let’s say the killer left his phone where he has parked his car, they still would have detected it in the area and contacted him to follow up.

That leaves us several scenarios
1. His phone was detected and LE already talked to him or someone near him ( a spouses phone ?) when they followed up on cell use. But he had an alibi.
2.. His phone was detected but for some reason LE never was able to contacted him during follow up,
3. His phone was not detected because he had it turned off within a 5 miles radius of the kill site for the entire period preceding the crime , during the crime, and after the crime.
4. He does not own a phone.

Hi elir, 

Yes, I agree with you that Gray Hughes has done some good work and I agree he has a big ego.  I'll restrain myself from all i'd like to say about him and as you can guess, it's negative. 

I don't know why, but I just like Anthony.  I know he has problems with respecting "some" of the law enforcement people in the area but there is a lot of corruption and he's pointed out some of the things that have happened and the people that have resigned as a result and some other things that are going on.  He's like a one man watchdog committee and I consider that pretty brave. 
 
Interesting about the geocaching not being new.  I had missed that one.  I had read that in only one other place but I saw it after the program.

I agree with your cell phone possibilities.  It appears the killer came prepared.  It looks like he had a lot of stuff under his jacket.  So if that is correct, then I'd say #3 is the most likely.    

The next question for me is:  Is there DNA? 

I don't think there is or I feel he would have been caught a long time ago.  They would have had Parabon Nanolabs work on it and I believe they would have used the technique that was used to catch DeAngelo. 

People think there is DNA because State Police Superintendent Doug Carter appeared to say there was.  But if you listen to him again and listen like a lawyer looking for a loophole, you will see that he didn't actually say that.  He indicated that they would use everything in their arsenal to solve the case, human resources, scientific ones etc. and when asked it that included DNA, he said yes.  But I think he was saying yes, DNA would be included in the scientific arsenal. 

"If" I'm right, then that could indicate a couple of suspects they people assume must have been cleared by DNA haven't been cleared.   However, LE has come out and said that none of the known suspects are of interest.  So are they positive?  Does this mean they do have DNA.? Or have they cleared them by some other means? 

This is a  fascinating case and all murders are tragic but anything involving kids is especially heinous.    I really hope this child killer is brought to justice especially before he kills again. 

[elir]

Jan 20, 2020 9:53:06 GMT Agent99 aka Sandia said:

Jan 19, 2020 21:06:03 GMT elir said:

I think Hughes has s big ego but the video reconstructions are thought provoking and at least somewhat useful. But I don’t think he is a great person.

I’ve been back and forth on greeno because some of his info seems okay but others seem to be exaggeration of lying . he’s claimed that LE took his phone and won’t return it because they think he may have evidence on it ( like he interviewed someone significant .

The thing is LE would need a warrant for that which should be in the public record. If they obtain the phone they should be able to extract digital information and then wipe the phone and return it . So his claim is suspect and that’s one reason why I’m wary of him.

The geocaching thing is not new, since early on the family has mentioned this .

The podcast has several unique bits of info or confirmationof info that was previously only considered rumor:
the recording of searchers announcing over the radio that they found underwear in the water under the bridge is genuine . But there is no confirmation that the clothes belonged to the girls . -
That the scene of crime likely was staged in some way “odd” . This is the first time that LE or the DA s office has acknowledged those rumors .

That they looked at cell phone use that day within a 5 mile radius of the murders and contacted people based on cell phone data to rule them out. There were local stories about people having LE check because their phones were detected in the area but there had no been no previous confirmation that this happened or how big a net was cast.

I find the cell phone info most interesting if all . Let’s say the killer left his phone where he has parked his car, they still would have detected it in the area and contacted him to follow up.

That leaves us several scenarios
1. His phone was detected and LE already talked to him or someone near him ( a spouses phone ?) when they followed up on cell use. But he had an alibi.
2.. His phone was detected but for some reason LE never was able to contacted him during follow up,
3. His phone was not detected because he had it turned off within a 5 miles radius of the kill site for the entire period preceding the crime , during the crime, and after the crime.
4. He does not own a phone.

Hi elir, 

Yes, I agree with you that Gray Hughes has done some good work and I agree he has a big ego.  I'll restrain myself from all i'd like to say about him and as you can guess, it's negative. 

I don't know why, but I just like Anthony.  I know he has problems with respecting "some" of the law enforcement people in the area but there is a lot of corruption and he's pointed out some of the things that have happened and the people that have resigned as a result and some other things that are going on.  He's like a one man watchdog committee and I consider that pretty brave. 
 
Interesting about the geocaching not being new.  I had missed that one.  I had read that in only one other place but I saw it after the program.

I agree with your cell phone possibilities.  It appears the killer came prepared.  It looks like he had a lot of stuff under his jacket.  So if that is correct, then I'd say #3 is the most likely.    

The next question for me is:  Is there DNA? 

I don't think there is or I feel he would have been caught a long time ago.  They would have had Parabon Nanolabs work on it and I believe they would have used the technique that was used to catch DeAngelo. 

People think there is DNA because State Police Superintendent Doug Carter appeared to say there was.  But if you listen to him again and listen like a lawyer looking for a loophole, you will see that he didn't actually say that.  He indicated that they would use everything in their arsenal to solve the case, human resources, scientific ones etc. and when asked it that included DNA, he said yes.  But I think he was saying yes, DNA would be included in the scientific arsenal. 

"If" I'm right, then that could indicate a couple of suspects they people assume must have been cleared by DNA haven't been cleared.   However, LE has come out and said that none of the known suspects are of interest.  So are they positive?  Does this mean they do have DNA.? Or have they cleared them by some other means? 

This is a  fascinating case and all murders are tragic but anything involving kids is especially heinous.    I really hope this child killer is brought to justice especially before he kills again. 

I had posted this in another thread but am reposting here to address your DNA question. It doesn’t sound good re DNA.:

re DNA. I typed up the content from from Jensen and Holes: The Murder Squad episode 23 December 2019. The episode featured a number of updates on cases they covered this year. Starting at 55 minutes they are discussing dna in the Delphi case (any transcript errors are mine):

Jensen: Now as far as … from what we’ve heard…we’ve heard differing reports on whether there is dna, whether there is usable dna. What do we know about that?

Holes: Um well shortly after the Gold State Killer case was solved, I did consult with an investigator on this case. He gave me some information, he would not divulge everything about the case, and I cannot harm the investigation with (sharing) the information that he provided me. However. I will basically just say this is a very very difficult case from a physical evidence standpoint.

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To be clear , I believe when Paul Holes says “ physical evidence” he means DNA. That is the most likely reason that Delphi investigators would contact him after the GSK case became news.