Post by englishman on Sept 16, 2020 19:59:55 GMT
Pubs can be quite strange based on appearances, we have a big pub culture over here, and there is a saying if a pubs has a flat roof it's rough, which is sort of true to a degree because the areas which have those styles of pubs are sometimes surrounded by public housing.
In general you associate rough boozers with rundown area's, industrial sites, urban decay, fly tipping, ports. Speaking from experience you can see a victorian style hotel which looks picturesque on the outside, in a random middle class area made up of families and old retired couples, you walk inside and filled up with borderline sociopaths who will get violent over the slightest thing, the kind of place you finish your drink and leave quickly.
Drug pubs especially ones involving cocaine are cliquey and can be intimidating and hierachical if it has a villainous clientele, but if you know a few people in the regular ones no-one bothers anyone. The heavy stuff like crack and heroin is a different story, they will work you out straight away, if your not part of that world they will let you know on clear and no uncertain terms that your presence is not required, you only end up in these places if your young, over confident and have a serious error in your judgement (speaking about myself with this last statement)
The Yorktown Pub was never in a bad area. Back then, it wasn't the hip place it is today. Then, folks would go right in from hanging out at the beach all day. It was more a working-class place than it is today. Within walking distance was a place where underage kids could go and dance. There was a nice area up the hill with beautiful, 200 year-old houses, right next to the battlefield property. Across the river in Gloucester Point us the marine science school, a middle class/upper middle class neighborhood, a marina, and a community where most people knew each other. VIMS brought in a handful of new grad students each year. The rest if the county was a bit of a different culture; watermen were mainly concentrated in Guinea, and much of the county was still rural. I wouldn't call any area in either Gloucester or York (especially the area near the Pub) "rough.". I didn't know there was a drug thing going on there.
Good points, looking at streetview that area on appearance isn't rough in the slightest, historical and a beach community, looks clean and well kept, type of place that would keep trouble out as tourism will bring in money to the local economy, only trouble I could forsee in that area is the odd drunk or irritating group on the beach. The Duke of York hotel nearby looks interesting what was that like? You can more apply the logic I mentioned in my previous post with more urban built up areas or insular small towns.