Visalia Ransacker (VR) Discussion

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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Jennifer Armour November 24, 1974
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Joseph James DeAngelo: His Reign of Terror Is Over
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Professor Claude Snelling and Beth Snelling Sept 11, 1975
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Visalia looking into Deangelo as VR and Snelling Murderer
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Outside of Visalia and surrounding areas
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Beth Snelling speaks
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling The last few months of 1975 were really bad for Exeter
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Donna Richmond December 27, 1975
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Where did he live?
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling Visalia mid 1980’s.
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NewBookmarkLockedFalling What does the state of California owe to the Clifton Family?
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wesley: Depends. With DeAngelo himself, I agree with ego and the fact he is so reliant on his defense. Admitting his guilt would mean admission to everyone, the victims, their families, their friends, the community, his Own family, his Own friends and Jan 6, 2020 22:34:42 GMT
elir: I think he doesn't want to face his daughters and admit he did these crimes.Keeping quiet is the only control he has left. Jan 7, 2020 6:23:33 GMT
blablabla: Get on with the trial. No reason to grant the defense lawyer's unending requests for postponement. Have the trial. Maybe he will talk at the trial. Jan 7, 2020 14:37:48 GMT
cleopatra: Elir is right about the only control he has left is silence. Jan 7, 2020 17:01:42 GMT *
cleopatra: JJD is the ultimate control freak. He has been stripped of his freedom. Photos of his P were taken. He is told what to do and when. He sees only who goes to see him. Jan 7, 2020 17:05:28 GMT
cleopatra: If JJD gives up his silence, he'll have nothing. It's the only power he has over LE. His big fear is that his souvenirs will be found. Jan 7, 2020 17:08:29 GMT
blablabla: cleo, how big is his penis, if you know? Just curious. Jan 7, 2020 17:16:50 GMT
blablabla: As far as his souvenirs, I thought his maid said he kept some in the house. You mean to tell me they don't have any of his mementos? Jan 7, 2020 17:18:34 GMT
blablabla: As far as "the only control he has is silence", I don't get it. Yes, he can remain silent forever but he will still be found guilty and live out his days incarcerated. If he wanted to start talking, he could play all kinds of games. Jan 7, 2020 17:23:43 GMT
f1guyus: Like I said, if I made the rules he’d be talking. You wouldn’t be able to shut him up. Jan 8, 2020 3:10:44 GMT
rusty: F1guuys...under your persuasion, he'd say and do anything to get you to stop...except the truth. Besides, how would you verify his avowal as authentic? Jan 8, 2020 15:48:19 GMT
blablabla: The Green River Killer agreed to cooperate with LE in finding all the burial sites, but he screwed with the cops during this process. This is an example of a head game JJD could play. Of course, JJD has no buried corpses (that we know of) but he could Jan 8, 2020 16:53:36 GMT
blablabla: screw with the cops if he started talking. He could make up stories, lead cops on wild goose chases, or whatever. As far as Joey wanting to exert control, he would be better off if he started talking. No way he's going to be found not guilty on this one. Jan 8, 2020 16:57:08 GMT
rusty: Ridgeway cooperated to avoid the death penalty. DeAngelo is afflicted with no such concern and neither are any more Washington killers, since Jan 8, 2020 17:06:51 GMT
rusty: They abolished capital punishment in late 2018 Jan 8, 2020 17:07:28 GMT
blablabla: Yeah but the point is he had the opportunity to screw with the cops by telling them wrong directions to to the corpse, etc. Playing head games with LE. I agree Joey has no real bargaining chips in this poker game, like Ridgway did. A lot of his victims Jan 8, 2020 17:32:53 GMT
blablabla: were still "missing persons" and hunting down the corpse could bring closure for the relatives. Jan 8, 2020 17:34:01 GMT
mtf65: Welcome back murderinc Jan 8, 2020 22:34:27 GMT
elroacho: This lemon pie is GOOD! Jan 14, 2020 22:58:46 GMT
f1guyus: Lemon pie is always good. Jan 15, 2020 16:42:02 GMT