Just some ideas ........EAR ONS as Sexual Terrorist
May 8, 2015 6:46:37 GMT
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Post by newbienew on May 8, 2015 6:46:37 GMT
Someone described EAR/ONS as a sexual terrorist and that really struck a cord with me.
He wasn't about killing people at least not for years.
He wasn't truly "sadistic". Sure rape is "sadistic" in a sense but I mean he wasn't jabbing things under people's finger nails and sticking things into them and burning them etc. At least not per the published documented evidence.
Some Criminals are driven to truly HURT others in sick crazy ways. Rape hurts don't get me wrong but most of the pain of rape doesn't happen while the rapist is present its outside his world, he doesn't see it. There is very little published evidence of Sadism early on. The exception that comes to mind is the girl punched in the face then raped. Trying someone's hands may hurt but it doesn't seem like something intended to hurt or permanently damage. It seems more like something intended to CONTROL and humiliate perhaps in a ritualized way.
He seems to be a partially socialized offender especially early on. He understood he was damaging people and that caused him turmoil. This is the sign of a conscious. This isn't a common thing in crazy people, they don't question their own worldview. Many people crazy or otherwise just don't calculate the effect there actions have on other people. And if he wasn't crazy but just "acting" then this is a sophisticated layer on top of an already successful criminal which isn't typical.
And I am not sure he was getting that much out of the sex. If his penis was tiny then sex wouldn't offer that much stimulation relative to alternative forms of self gratification.
So what was his motivation??
Sexual Terrorist seems the best description to me.
He used the word Punishment.
Why or How was he punishing the victims?
What is the common factor?
Its not rape.
Unless the reports are sanitized all the rapes could have been more horrific or more sexual.
Rape as a motivation wouldn't involve calls it wouldn't involve long breaks away from the victims.
Rather he would re-rape people if that was what drove him he would come back for 2nds.
Something other than rape drove him.
Was he sincere that he thought they were whores?
What if anything supports this line of thought in his mind?
Is there anything different in how the victims behaved relative to others?
There was a real reason the particular victims were chosen and it possibly had to do with punishment in his mind.
I think that is a concept that we should explore.
There is no blame belonging to the victims but there may be something to them.
To what world view would these victims be considered whores? ISIS sure. Al Quida also. Conservative christian? Perhaps.
But the real paydirt is if the victims had some common element that we are not getting clearly spelled out.
Were they swingers?
Did they nude sunbathe?
Did they have two love interests Like the zodiac victims?
Was it something innocent like they wore the smallest bikini?
Were they nice to waiters?
Would they have been rude to someone trying to sell them on a religion?
Were they pushy?
were they sexually abused previously?
Were they easy marks?
SB police had someone caught up in a "taking pictures" of naked women/girls and one of the girls was killed. Did any of the victims have a past like that?
Was it EARS own sexual dysfunction and they were just seen as unattainable?
Were they all beautiful?
Were they the winners?
Were they Alpha personality types?
Did the Victims earn punishment by a faction?
I noticed one wife ended up making a bj selfie with a biker type who was cooking meth, did she have some association with someone a faction wished to threaten or push?
I noticed a husband was gone gambling. Did he owe the wrong people too much money?
The EAR/ONS like the Zodiac seem to involve violence against people a faction may want to harm but also possibly in a zone of control of another faction that the first faction may wish to discredit?
Were the victims related to witnesses in crimes?
One of the POI was a Witness protection person were more than one? Were the victims protected witnesses? If so Law Enforcement would be very hush hush about everything even now.
Were any of the victims related to people being extorted?
Zodiac killed at least 1 possibly 2 women who dated police officers and one of EAR/ONS victims was having an affair with a police officer and her ex who was a police officer was killed. Doyle I think his name was.
Both the Zodiac and EAR/ONS killed people who had other people threatening to kill the victims. This strikes me as odd.
Was he a hitman? Enforcer? Do people put rape hits on people??? Would teenagers? Would cults? Give me a good drop of virgin blood? Is that why he left naked?
Both the Zodiac and the EAR/ONS were able to attack people who had other parties interested in their harm. This is a near perfect cover mechanism. Who is sophisticated enough to do this? cops and mobsters who else?
EAR wasn't a simple criminal.
What motivated him wasn't simple.
He broke into 10s and 10s of houses without getting caught.
He is either someone very good at crime, someone paid to be very good at crime, someone paid to stop crime or possibly someone who is not involved in crime at all.
By not involved in crime at all I mean someone who isn't typical in any aspect for a criminal. Someone with a sexy wife, a good job, a conservative law abiding background. And most importantly not motivated like a criminal at all. I believe that none of the things stolen were ever fenced.
If EAR/ONS was a Submissive acting on someone else's orders it would raise a few interesting possibilities. Was he searching for evidence of his deeds? Is that why he wanted money but didn't take it all? Was he the nicer guy following an evil master's wishes? Did his master not worry about his safety and he had to obey no matter how dangerous? Was he more excited when he faced resistance? Was this why he seemed to have empathy early on? Was the sex about following masters orders and not about the rape?
But most importantly
Who or what stood to gain from sexually terrorizing the victims and victim communities?
And how?
He wasn't about killing people at least not for years.
He wasn't truly "sadistic". Sure rape is "sadistic" in a sense but I mean he wasn't jabbing things under people's finger nails and sticking things into them and burning them etc. At least not per the published documented evidence.
Some Criminals are driven to truly HURT others in sick crazy ways. Rape hurts don't get me wrong but most of the pain of rape doesn't happen while the rapist is present its outside his world, he doesn't see it. There is very little published evidence of Sadism early on. The exception that comes to mind is the girl punched in the face then raped. Trying someone's hands may hurt but it doesn't seem like something intended to hurt or permanently damage. It seems more like something intended to CONTROL and humiliate perhaps in a ritualized way.
He seems to be a partially socialized offender especially early on. He understood he was damaging people and that caused him turmoil. This is the sign of a conscious. This isn't a common thing in crazy people, they don't question their own worldview. Many people crazy or otherwise just don't calculate the effect there actions have on other people. And if he wasn't crazy but just "acting" then this is a sophisticated layer on top of an already successful criminal which isn't typical.
And I am not sure he was getting that much out of the sex. If his penis was tiny then sex wouldn't offer that much stimulation relative to alternative forms of self gratification.
So what was his motivation??
Sexual Terrorist seems the best description to me.
He used the word Punishment.
Why or How was he punishing the victims?
What is the common factor?
Its not rape.
Unless the reports are sanitized all the rapes could have been more horrific or more sexual.
Rape as a motivation wouldn't involve calls it wouldn't involve long breaks away from the victims.
Rather he would re-rape people if that was what drove him he would come back for 2nds.
Something other than rape drove him.
Was he sincere that he thought they were whores?
What if anything supports this line of thought in his mind?
Is there anything different in how the victims behaved relative to others?
There was a real reason the particular victims were chosen and it possibly had to do with punishment in his mind.
I think that is a concept that we should explore.
There is no blame belonging to the victims but there may be something to them.
To what world view would these victims be considered whores? ISIS sure. Al Quida also. Conservative christian? Perhaps.
But the real paydirt is if the victims had some common element that we are not getting clearly spelled out.
Were they swingers?
Did they nude sunbathe?
Did they have two love interests Like the zodiac victims?
Was it something innocent like they wore the smallest bikini?
Were they nice to waiters?
Would they have been rude to someone trying to sell them on a religion?
Were they pushy?
were they sexually abused previously?
Were they easy marks?
SB police had someone caught up in a "taking pictures" of naked women/girls and one of the girls was killed. Did any of the victims have a past like that?
Was it EARS own sexual dysfunction and they were just seen as unattainable?
Were they all beautiful?
Were they the winners?
Were they Alpha personality types?
Did the Victims earn punishment by a faction?
I noticed one wife ended up making a bj selfie with a biker type who was cooking meth, did she have some association with someone a faction wished to threaten or push?
I noticed a husband was gone gambling. Did he owe the wrong people too much money?
The EAR/ONS like the Zodiac seem to involve violence against people a faction may want to harm but also possibly in a zone of control of another faction that the first faction may wish to discredit?
Were the victims related to witnesses in crimes?
One of the POI was a Witness protection person were more than one? Were the victims protected witnesses? If so Law Enforcement would be very hush hush about everything even now.
Were any of the victims related to people being extorted?
Zodiac killed at least 1 possibly 2 women who dated police officers and one of EAR/ONS victims was having an affair with a police officer and her ex who was a police officer was killed. Doyle I think his name was.
Both the Zodiac and EAR/ONS killed people who had other people threatening to kill the victims. This strikes me as odd.
Was he a hitman? Enforcer? Do people put rape hits on people??? Would teenagers? Would cults? Give me a good drop of virgin blood? Is that why he left naked?
Both the Zodiac and the EAR/ONS were able to attack people who had other parties interested in their harm. This is a near perfect cover mechanism. Who is sophisticated enough to do this? cops and mobsters who else?
EAR wasn't a simple criminal.
What motivated him wasn't simple.
He broke into 10s and 10s of houses without getting caught.
He is either someone very good at crime, someone paid to be very good at crime, someone paid to stop crime or possibly someone who is not involved in crime at all.
By not involved in crime at all I mean someone who isn't typical in any aspect for a criminal. Someone with a sexy wife, a good job, a conservative law abiding background. And most importantly not motivated like a criminal at all. I believe that none of the things stolen were ever fenced.
If EAR/ONS was a Submissive acting on someone else's orders it would raise a few interesting possibilities. Was he searching for evidence of his deeds? Is that why he wanted money but didn't take it all? Was he the nicer guy following an evil master's wishes? Did his master not worry about his safety and he had to obey no matter how dangerous? Was he more excited when he faced resistance? Was this why he seemed to have empathy early on? Was the sex about following masters orders and not about the rape?
But most importantly
Who or what stood to gain from sexually terrorizing the victims and victim communities?
And how?