I am not interested in arguing that JJD was Zodiac. I am more interested in why Avery and McCulloch would be knee deep in the Zodiac, and then right there in Sacramento when the Ear crimes start. I strongly believe that JJD was aware of, if not jealous of, the Zodiac crimes and communications. He might have even been jealous of Paul Avery's involvement and the resulting attention he got. Especially if he had known or met Avery.
I dont know where Paul Avery lived while he was in Sacramento, but McCulloch lived very close to the attacks. Purportedly, he was one of the people who helped get media attention for the early crimes. His paper received letters and poems. And it turns out his star reporter might have had a connection to the GSK.
I think one of the issues with Paul Avery is that you often get conflicting reasons and explanations for things. My understanding is by the time he had transitioned to the Bee he was more of an author/feature writer than investigative journalist so you get stories about him still working on Zodiac and had a suspect that he eventually presented to the DOJ prior to his death.
In conflict with that, his wife supposedly said that he hadn't worked on Zodiac in several years. I don't know if Avery had this supposed suspect for several years, knew he was on the way out, and approached the DOJ and thus WASN'T really actively working on it...or he WAS working on it and not telling anybody, etc.
The mythos of Avery even shows up in the Gary Stewart Zodiac book that has him as the writer of the "ice cream romance" story in the Chronicle circa 1961-1962 featuring Van Best ( suspect )...no by-line...no proof...just attribution to try to prove a reason for the Halloween card and threat years later. Didn't Graysmith's first Zodiac book paint a totally falsified level of relationship between himself and Avery and this was reinforced in the Fincher movie??
My understanding is that McCulloch came to the Bee in 1975 and then to the Chronicle/Examiner years after Zodiac and at the tail end of the EARONS crimes with Avery's return roughly paralleling McCulloch's time there. I don't think of McCulloch as a Zodiac figure but maybe I'm missing something.
So, I'd probably submit that if one person attributed a possible connection with EARONS and Zodiac through McCulloch and Avery, you'd get three different versions and two or none of them would be correct unless you're able to parse out the mythos. If DeAngelo was jealous of Avery, then by the level of things that have been attributed to him, he apparently wasn't alone.
Here is two quotes from Duffy, and then the SLA letter from Z. I would consider the Novato Letter as well. The Time-Life gig had to be an important one, and for McC to hire him again two more times seems to imply more than just a professional relationship, but of genuine friendship and trust. Zodiac seems to have had eye on Avery through out his career. And, while not occurring in VR, or ONS, there was a Z-like relationship towards the media and police. Interesting to see that the Novato editor had a good deal of experience in Vietnam as well.
Personally I enjoyed the film about Gary Webb much more than the Zodiac film. I wonder what Avery's career, legacy, or perception, would have been like without the Zodiac singling him out.
"Avery had written most of The Chronicle's stories about the case, and this was the first time Zodiac had targeted anyone by name. So we gathered around Paul for a closer look at this brazen new message, cracking jokes about his life expectancy. In the relative safety of the city room, we scoffed at the threat. (In 2006, 81 journalists were killed worldwide, but three decades ago, the notion that we were in a life-threatening occupation bordered on the preposterous.)"
"Later, after Paul's growing struggles with alcohol and substance abuse led to his departure from The Chronicle, I took over the coverage. But Zodiac soon dropped out of sight, and precious little news occurred for three years until the last letter arrived in 1978."
"Dear Mr Editor, Did you know that the initials SLAY (Symbionese Liberation Army) spell "sla", an old Norse word meaning "kill". a friend."
"San Francisco Chronicle journalist Paul Avery provided an important new lead when he received an anonymous tip claiming that a 1966 murder in Riverside was the work of the Zodiac, who had previously been thought to operate only in the San Francisco area."
cherylh: A problem with some internet crime researchers who blame a lot of crimes on their favorite murderer: When DNA results come out identifying the actual killer, they quietly delete the entries on that particular crime.
Jan 13, 2021 18:27:50 GMT
cherylh: Since the emergence of DNA familial tracking, this has been seen on numerous websites. It doesn't speak well for the objectivity and honesty of the researchers in question.
Jan 13, 2021 18:28:40 GMT
cherylh: It's key to remember that for every mistaken murderer ID, a real murderer isn't being identified. And sometimes defense attorneys use these weak theories in their courtroom arguments -- to convince juries that internet "experts" identified other suspects.
Jan 13, 2021 18:32:05 GMT
elir: For people supporting MurderInc's continued presence here - what do suggest we do? Allow MurderInc to call members morons if they disagree?Give MurderInc an exemption from harassing and mocking people that s/she doesn't like?
Jan 14, 2021 1:56:52 GMT
elir: Tried giving short breaks to cool down and the cycle went on and on, if anything he/she pushes back more, challenging me to do something. MurderInc is good at data mining, no question. How do we manage the behavioral component? I am open to suggestions
Jan 14, 2021 2:00:21 GMT
f1guyus: The internet is where you can find all the great works of art, music, and literature. You can visit foreign lands, read and see history and find your family history. Or you can see pictures of cute kittens and pick fights with strangers. Your choice.
Jan 15, 2021 17:55:24 GMT
goldrusher: It is difficult to find happiness within oneself, but it is impossible to find it anywhere else - Arthur Schopenhauer
Jan 15, 2021 18:14:52 GMT
magnumforce73: "You make people afraid, and that makes You dangerous."--Vera Bloom as "Sarah Belding" in HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER, 1973.
Jan 15, 2021 21:16:41 GMT
magnumforce73: "It's what people know about themselves ON THE INSIDE that makes 'em afraid."-- The Stranger, Lago, CA, c. 1870s.
Jan 15, 2021 21:17:26 GMT
pod: I don't look at kitten pictures ever. Honest. Not ever. Nor puppy pictures. Who wants to look at puppy pictures? Not me, sir. Definately not.
Jan 15, 2021 23:52:24 GMT
elir: Deep thoughts, all.
Jan 16, 2021 7:23:17 GMT
nowhereman: everyone watch that Night Stalker documentary on Netflix... I wasn't familiar with that much of the details it was very good. basically from the perspective of the main detectives so you get a feel of how difficult it was to identify him
Jan 18, 2021 15:54:29 GMT
nowhereman: I'm old enough to remember no internet, the internet is an awesome thing but it can also be a cesspool. It's like a major city...there's all these cool neighborhoods and resturants but then some other places you better watch your back
Jan 18, 2021 15:56:01 GMT
sammyt: The Night Stalker documentary was really good. I didn't know that Ramirez had so many additional victims.
Jan 18, 2021 17:16:14 GMT
sammyt: How were we ever arguing that EAR could have been versatile in terms of MO and victimology? Ramirez was already proof such an offender could exist. Ramirez was a killer, and also a rapist, and also a child abductor.
Jan 18, 2021 17:19:08 GMT
sammyt: His victims included children, couples and the elderly. Ramirez committed home invasion murders and rapes, but also street murders and abductions.
Jan 18, 2021 17:24:31 GMT