New January 2, 1978 Phone Call to Victim UPDATED 11.30.14

[Agent99 aka Sandia]

Oct 16, 2013 17:14:58 GMT thebutler said:

Oct 16, 2013 15:01:26 GMT Agent99 aka Sandia said:

Just to add my two cents worth.  Voices can be very deceptive.  There are older people that I know that on the phone that sound like they could be in their 20's, and one very glamorous 30 year old? woman I met in the context of work,  on the phone sounded like an old truck driver.  (She was the wife of a movie star and was I ever wrong.)  I could agree that the voice could be a young 17 year old, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a 30 year old.

Regarding the accent,  to my ears, and I live near Santa Barbara, I hear NO accent at all.  Now people in England might think it is I that have the accent but speaking just from my perspective, he could sound like anyone I meet around here.  The accent that thebutler mentioned to me is more like a surfer dude accent, then there is the Valley girl accent, then there is the Beverly Hills wealthy woman accent but I think these are all put on for effect.  Not sure about that last statement.  I cannot hear a difference in people from northern California, Oregon, Washington State, Nevada, Arizona.  When you start to get into the mid west I hear an accent, I hear different southern drawls, Texas being different from the deep south, New York, and the Eastern seaboard, New England all have distinct accents.  I'm actually pretty good at discerning accents.

One little aside, when I was in Las Vegas a woman bet me she could tell where I was from by listening to me talk.  I put on a fake southern accent and she guessed wrong.  I was very smug but noticed that she didn't care at all.  Then I realized that she took my dollar and gave me a prize worth 5 cents.  Can you say doofus, duuuude?  LOL   

Rewatch the E CHANNEL EAR-ONS show. The caller has the same accent as the man they interviewed who witnessed the Magiore murders. I'm from Northern New England and have a keen ear for even the slightest accent.

NO!  I have a keen ear.  LOL, j.k. 
I would like to listen to that, can you give me more info on what that show is titled, surely not the EAR-ONS show.  Do you have a link?  Thanks

[jkearns]

yes voices can be deceptive i have an odd voice people ask me all the time where i am  what accent is mine i am from the same pacific northwest as them. scary enough i think my voice sounds a little like ears at least during ray call

[lepke]

Oct 16, 2013 17:14:58 GMT thebutler said:

Oct 16, 2013 15:01:26 GMT Agent99 aka Sandia said:

Just to add my two cents worth.  Voices can be very deceptive.  There are older people that I know that on the phone that sound like they could be in their 20's, and one very glamorous 30 year old? woman I met in the context of work,  on the phone sounded like an old truck driver.  (She was the wife of a movie star and was I ever wrong.)  I could agree that the voice could be a young 17 year old, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a 30 year old.

Regarding the accent,  to my ears, and I live near Santa Barbara, I hear NO accent at all.  Now people in England might think it is I that have the accent but speaking just from my perspective, he could sound like anyone I meet around here.  The accent that thebutler mentioned to me is more like a surfer dude accent, then there is the Valley girl accent, then there is the Beverly Hills wealthy woman accent but I think these are all put on for effect.  Not sure about that last statement.  I cannot hear a difference in people from northern California, Oregon, Washington State, Nevada, Arizona.  When you start to get into the mid west I hear an accent, I hear different southern drawls, Texas being different from the deep south, New York, and the Eastern seaboard, New England all have distinct accents.  I'm actually pretty good at discerning accents.

One little aside, when I was in Las Vegas a woman bet me she could tell where I was from by listening to me talk.  I put on a fake southern accent and she guessed wrong.  I was very smug but noticed that she didn't care at all.  Then I realized that she took my dollar and gave me a prize worth 5 cents.  Can you say doofus, duuuude?  LOL   

Rewatch the E CHANNEL EAR-ONS show. The caller has the same accent as the man they interviewed who witnessed the Magiore murders. I'm from Northern New England and have a keen ear for even the slightest accent.

Please provide a link to the programme and let us know exactly where in the video we should be watching...

[Agent99 aka Sandia]

Oct 16, 2013 18:41:40 GMT jkearns said:

yes voices can be deceptive i have an odd voice people ask me all the time where i am  what accent is mine i am from the same pacific northwest as them. scary enough i think my voice sounds a little like ears at least during ray call

Well then strangely enough your voice would not scare me at all.  I didn't find his voice scarey except in the "gonna kill you" recording.  THAT was terrifying.  I had to shut the conputer down and walk, no run, out of the room, and couldn't listen again till daylight and had to brace myself.  Which I guess was the desired effect.  I wonder, did he ever do any self reflecting and just think what kind of a creature, what kind of a misfit he was?  Did he ever see himself as others see him?  Hard to comprehend. 

I digress, so where do people think you are from?  or where are you from that people would think you are not from there?  I can detect no accent and I think he sounds normal except as I mentioned above.

[Relentless]

I give props out to the victim who received that " I'm gonna kill you" call. What courage it took to stand there and listen to that. Brave, brave woman.

[thebutler]

Oct 16, 2013 22:07:58 GMT lepke said:

Oct 16, 2013 17:14:58 GMT thebutler said:

Rewatch the E CHANNEL EAR-ONS show. The caller has the same accent as the man they interviewed who witnessed the Magiore murders. I'm from Northern New England and have a keen ear for even the slightest accent.

Please provide a link to the programme and let us know exactly where in the video we should be watching...

[thebutler]

Rewatch the E CHANNEL EAR-ONS show. The caller has the same accent as the man they interviewed who witnessed the Magiore murders. I'm from Northern New England and have a keen ear for even the slightest accent.

Please provide a link to the programme and let us know exactly where in the video we should be watching...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgbqOX0aZCE

Start watching around 17:30

[lepke]

Oct 17, 2013 0:31:20 GMT thebutler said:

Rewatch the E CHANNEL EAR-ONS show. The caller has the same accent as the man they interviewed who witnessed the Magiore murders. I'm from Northern New England and have a keen ear for even the slightest accent.

Please provide a link to the programme and let us know exactly where in the video we should be watching...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgbqOX0aZCE

Start watching around 17:30

Thanks for posting the link. Do you mean the blond guy standing by the pool, or the little guy with glasses standing by the pavement?

[neksanalet]

Oct 16, 2013 17:14:58 GMT thebutler said:

Oct 16, 2013 15:01:26 GMT Agent99 aka Sandia said:

Just to add my two cents worth.  Voices can be very deceptive.  There are older people that I know that on the phone that sound like they could be in their 20's, and one very glamorous 30 year old? woman I met in the context of work,  on the phone sounded like an old truck driver.  (She was the wife of a movie star and was I ever wrong.)  I could agree that the voice could be a young 17 year old, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a 30 year old.

Regarding the accent,  to my ears, and I live near Santa Barbara, I hear NO accent at all.  Now people in England might think it is I that have the accent but speaking just from my perspective, he could sound like anyone I meet around here.  The accent that thebutler mentioned to me is more like a surfer dude accent, then there is the Valley girl accent, then there is the Beverly Hills wealthy woman accent but I think these are all put on for effect.  Not sure about that last statement.  I cannot hear a difference in people from northern California, Oregon, Washington State, Nevada, Arizona.  When you start to get into the mid west I hear an accent, I hear different southern drawls, Texas being different from the deep south, New York, and the Eastern seaboard, New England all have distinct accents.  I'm actually pretty good at discerning accents.

One little aside, when I was in Las Vegas a woman bet me she could tell where I was from by listening to me talk.  I put on a fake southern accent and she guessed wrong.  I was very smug but noticed that she didn't care at all.  Then I realized that she took my dollar and gave me a prize worth 5 cents.  Can you say doofus, duuuude?  LOL   

Rewatch the E CHANNEL EAR-ONS show. The caller has the same accent as the man they interviewed who witnessed the Magiore murders. I'm from Northern New England and have a keen ear for even the slightest accent.

I'm no expert on accents but neither guy interviewed sounds like the EAR/ONS caller to me. 

I do think that the same person was responsible for "is Ray there", "gonna kill you", and "be careful" recordings. 

[thebutler]

The blond guy who talks about how he watched the whole thing from his bedroom window

[borderlaw]

Quick question for those more familiar with this case. Why did he ask for ray? Was that the name of the victims husband? If not does anyone think he used the name ray because it was his first name or someone he knew?
Call me crazy, but i decided to google (ray goleta california). I thought maybe he used his real name or the nsme of someone he knew and maybe by chance he was living in goleta. The result was a little suprising. I got a hit on a company named rays _________(leaving it blank because i dont want to point a finger at a innocent person). So you say okay big deal. Then i saw that his business is located in sacramento and he has two other locations and one is in santa barabra. Then i found that this business which has to do with homes opened in1977.

Am i crazy or does anyone else think that there just might be something to all of this. Feel free to call me crazy. I am not saying that this ray is ons but his business fits some things. Maybe someone who worked for him is ons.

Okay I found a picture of the owner of the business on facebook. The owner would defintly would not fit the description of ons, but it still could be someone who worked for him. I know it is a long shot but you never know.

[borderlaw]

I almost forgot the business that i am talking about involes milling. Why does this matter? If you look at the map with what looks like punishment written on the back at the bottom it has the word milling. At the top it looks like it could say comes from snelling. Snelling is a temp service. It looks as if the person needed some milling done and hired a temp from snelling. Which would fit with rays business.

I realize it may just be a weird string of coincidences or i am putting things together that mean nothing, but i thought i would ask what people on this board think. Sorry if this is a waste of time.

[Drifter]

"Why did he ask for ray?"
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I don't think anyone really knows.

Your Google research is very good. Sometimes an online search will yield interesting tidbits of info; sometimes not.

Nobody is going to call you crazy. This case defies easy explanations. So your "crazy" research is just as valid as anyone else's crazy research. It is most definitely not a waste of time.

Your messages here will always be available if a reader happens on to some other tidbits that happens to connect to your research. Keep digging and posting. that's about all any of us can do.

Cheers,

Drifter

[ezraeda]

Oct 27, 2013 8:51:24 GMT borderlaw said:

I almost forgot the business that i am talking about involes milling. Why does this matter? If you look at the map with what looks like punishment written on the back at the bottom it has the word milling. At the top it looks like it could say comes from snelling. Snelling is a temp service. It looks as if the person needed some milling done and hired a temp from snelling. Which would fit with rays business.

I realize it may just be a weird string of coincidences or i am putting things together that mean nothing, but i thought i would ask what people on this board think. Sorry if this is a waste of time.

Far from crazy! That was clever investigating. You just never know. Anything is possible. Nothing should be dismissed offhand. And just to help you out, look back on the board about the Snelling case. It's one of the more interesting cases, as far as EAR 's behavior goes. No disrespect to any of his other victims; but many regard the Snelling case to be highly significant, because of what it says about his psychological state, and his behavior. No one can say with confidence what is or is not important here. Let's hope we get to find out soon! When they get him, and all MY theories are wrong, I will still be absolutely thrilled. 

[lepke]

Oct 28, 2013 4:10:12 GMT ezraeda said:

Oct 27, 2013 8:51:24 GMT borderlaw said:

I almost forgot the business that i am talking about involes milling. Why does this matter? If you look at the map with what looks like punishment written on the back at the bottom it has the word milling. At the top it looks like it could say comes from snelling. Snelling is a temp service. It looks as if the person needed some milling done and hired a temp from snelling. Which would fit with rays business.

I realize it may just be a weird string of coincidences or i am putting things together that mean nothing, but i thought i would ask what people on this board think. Sorry if this is a waste of time.

Far from crazy! That was clever investigating. You just never know. Anything is possible. Nothing should be dismissed offhand. And just to help you out, look back on the board about the Snelling case. It's one of the more interesting cases, as far as EAR 's behavior goes. No disrespect to any of his other victims; but many regard the Snelling case to be highly significant, because of what it says about his psychological state, and his behavior. No one can say with confidence what is or is not important here. Let's hope we get to find out soon! When they get him, and all MY theories are wrong, I will still be absolutely thrilled. 

Without meaning to be pernickety, I just want to point out that Snelling was a VR crime, and it isn't known to have been committed by EAR/ONS, but there is certainly a chance that VR and EAR/ONS are one in the same...