Post by oldguy on Jul 3, 2017 14:00:23 GMT
Re-reading case Quester, #17, April15, 1977.
EAR announces he has a .45magnum." Says it will "blow your brains all over the room."
He knew how to terrorize. No .45 magnum exists. But Dirty Harry made the term equal to power.
Now it gets interesting. He took the woman into another room and as part of securing compliance cocked the weapon close to her.
Later when the boyfriend moved the plates on his back he cocked the weapon to show who's boss.
The only commonly available .45 in 1977 was a 1911. This single action auto had to be cocked and locked to be immediately usable. So what did he do-wipe off the safety and decock? No. you need 2 hands to decock a 1911 due to the grip safety. And once decocked it needs to be recocked to fire. Also-very hard to safely do this with gloves on. It is an excellent way to have an AD.
Recall the poor teenager shot at the fence. The shell cases were 9mm. Smith had made a 9mm (Model 39) auto since 1956. It had a safety/decocker. Manually thumb cock. Push thumb lever-it decocks. Push lever back up so it can be fired double action. This gun was adopted by only one PD at that time-Illinois State Police. (It was used, however, in the 1960's by Navy Seals.) Had fair circulation in the civilian community. Not cheap. (unless you stole it, ha!)
There is one other possibility. Browning started importing the Sig P220 in 1977. Some were made in .45. Only 1800 were made, total. They called it a Browning BDA. But if he had a BDA it was one on the first imported. It was $$$, and EAR must have been a seriously learned, tuned in handgun guy. Would have had one of the first in the U.S. Must have known someone in the industry.
Later he got smart and started using a Smith revolver. (NO shell casings hanging around.) As I noted in another post-his use of Super Vel .38 spl. +p ammo in this gun (per Crompton) showed real handgun savvy. They were the $$$ cat's meow of defensive handgunning. They were also the hottest, most lethal load that (a) were controllable enough to allow quick f/u shots; (b) would not deafen him for an hour (EAR was always concerned about listening for problems) and, (c) would not blind him with muzzle flash. For all these reason, he did not load the Smith .357 mag revolver he used with actual .357 magnum ammo.(All .357 mag guns chamber and fire .38 spl.)
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BTW-the reasons above-and others are why I believe EAR was not a 17 year old kid. He had knowledge, and skill, that need time to develop.
EAR announces he has a .45magnum." Says it will "blow your brains all over the room."
He knew how to terrorize. No .45 magnum exists. But Dirty Harry made the term equal to power.
Now it gets interesting. He took the woman into another room and as part of securing compliance cocked the weapon close to her.
Later when the boyfriend moved the plates on his back he cocked the weapon to show who's boss.
The only commonly available .45 in 1977 was a 1911. This single action auto had to be cocked and locked to be immediately usable. So what did he do-wipe off the safety and decock? No. you need 2 hands to decock a 1911 due to the grip safety. And once decocked it needs to be recocked to fire. Also-very hard to safely do this with gloves on. It is an excellent way to have an AD.
Recall the poor teenager shot at the fence. The shell cases were 9mm. Smith had made a 9mm (Model 39) auto since 1956. It had a safety/decocker. Manually thumb cock. Push thumb lever-it decocks. Push lever back up so it can be fired double action. This gun was adopted by only one PD at that time-Illinois State Police. (It was used, however, in the 1960's by Navy Seals.) Had fair circulation in the civilian community. Not cheap. (unless you stole it, ha!)
There is one other possibility. Browning started importing the Sig P220 in 1977. Some were made in .45. Only 1800 were made, total. They called it a Browning BDA. But if he had a BDA it was one on the first imported. It was $$$, and EAR must have been a seriously learned, tuned in handgun guy. Would have had one of the first in the U.S. Must have known someone in the industry.
Later he got smart and started using a Smith revolver. (NO shell casings hanging around.) As I noted in another post-his use of Super Vel .38 spl. +p ammo in this gun (per Crompton) showed real handgun savvy. They were the $$$ cat's meow of defensive handgunning. They were also the hottest, most lethal load that (a) were controllable enough to allow quick f/u shots; (b) would not deafen him for an hour (EAR was always concerned about listening for problems) and, (c) would not blind him with muzzle flash. For all these reason, he did not load the Smith .357 mag revolver he used with actual .357 magnum ammo.(All .357 mag guns chamber and fire .38 spl.)
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BTW-the reasons above-and others are why I believe EAR was not a 17 year old kid. He had knowledge, and skill, that need time to develop.