Maybe EAR was mentored early on by a "Ray" from Fresno?
Feb 14, 2018 0:59:56 GMT
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Post by spodey on Feb 14, 2018 0:59:56 GMT
THEORY: I was doing some research and found this article (below) that has a lot of EAR-like statements that reminded me of some bits of suppositions that I have read about EAR in Proboards threads on EAR.
So I wondered if EAR, early on, could have been mentored by a man that California executed in 2006 for ordering the murders of several innocent people. The man in the SFGate article below wasn't EAR because he was in prison during the crimes.... but he had "a group of young people doing robberies" and break-ins and maybe EAR was one?
Here are some tidbits from the article that made me want to create this thread:
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-The man executed in 2006 for his crimes was "Clarence Ray Allen".......and was known to his family as "Ray Allen".
-Was a former warehouse manager
-Lead a double life as a considerate businessman and family man in Fresno, CA.
-Described as ""He presented himself as a typical, successful businessman, but on the side he had a group of young people who were doing robberies," said Jerry Jones, a former chief deputy district attorney for Fresno County who prosecuted two of Allen's accomplices. He was kind of a charismatic fellow, bright enough that he was able to walk between both of these worlds," Jones said. "He was a controlling guy, a scary guy. ... They did as he told them."
-worked in the late 1960s at a steel plant in Fresno County during the day and as a security guard at night.
-Allen started his own security firm in 1968, and the business soon prospered as ranchers struggling with the United Farm Workers union hired the outfit to guard their operations. At its height, the firm employed 60 workers and owned two planes. Allen had his own plane, a ranch and show horses, including an Appaloosa mare that he purchased for his second wife.
-Per a witness at Ray Allen's trial, Allen "wrote poetry about everything."
-Authorities eventually linked Allen to eight armed robberies of homes or businesses from 1974 to 1977 in the Central Valley. He used the same security firm he had built up as a legitimate business to gather information for accomplices to carry out at least two of the heists, prosecutors said. To those accomplices, Allen bragged that he was a Mafia hit man who had blown two people in half with a shotgun in Nevada, prosecutors said. In the early 1970s, he posed for a photo in dark sunglasses while holding an automatic weapon. --------Note from me: (Remember EAR's poem mentioning the "wife of a Mafia lord"?)
-Example of more dramatic poem from Ray Allen: "Ray and his sons are known as the Allen Gang/ Sometimes you have often read/ how we rob and steal/ and for those who squeal/ are usually found dying or dead."
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So I am wondering if Ray Allen of Fresno might have mentored or "guided" a young EAR, or if EAR was a member of Ray Allen's "crew" back in the early 70s and gone out on his own?
Thanks for reading. I hope there is way to see who all the members of Ray Allen's crew were. Maybe Fresno LE still have notes on him and them.
www.sfgate.com/news/article/Double-life-of-a-Death-Row-killer-Charismatic-2506688.php#photo-2680438
So I wondered if EAR, early on, could have been mentored by a man that California executed in 2006 for ordering the murders of several innocent people. The man in the SFGate article below wasn't EAR because he was in prison during the crimes.... but he had "a group of young people doing robberies" and break-ins and maybe EAR was one?
Here are some tidbits from the article that made me want to create this thread:
-----------------------------------------
-The man executed in 2006 for his crimes was "Clarence Ray Allen".......and was known to his family as "Ray Allen".
-Was a former warehouse manager
-Lead a double life as a considerate businessman and family man in Fresno, CA.
-Described as ""He presented himself as a typical, successful businessman, but on the side he had a group of young people who were doing robberies," said Jerry Jones, a former chief deputy district attorney for Fresno County who prosecuted two of Allen's accomplices. He was kind of a charismatic fellow, bright enough that he was able to walk between both of these worlds," Jones said. "He was a controlling guy, a scary guy. ... They did as he told them."
-worked in the late 1960s at a steel plant in Fresno County during the day and as a security guard at night.
-Allen started his own security firm in 1968, and the business soon prospered as ranchers struggling with the United Farm Workers union hired the outfit to guard their operations. At its height, the firm employed 60 workers and owned two planes. Allen had his own plane, a ranch and show horses, including an Appaloosa mare that he purchased for his second wife.
-Per a witness at Ray Allen's trial, Allen "wrote poetry about everything."
-Authorities eventually linked Allen to eight armed robberies of homes or businesses from 1974 to 1977 in the Central Valley. He used the same security firm he had built up as a legitimate business to gather information for accomplices to carry out at least two of the heists, prosecutors said. To those accomplices, Allen bragged that he was a Mafia hit man who had blown two people in half with a shotgun in Nevada, prosecutors said. In the early 1970s, he posed for a photo in dark sunglasses while holding an automatic weapon. --------Note from me: (Remember EAR's poem mentioning the "wife of a Mafia lord"?)
-Example of more dramatic poem from Ray Allen: "Ray and his sons are known as the Allen Gang/ Sometimes you have often read/ how we rob and steal/ and for those who squeal/ are usually found dying or dead."
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So I am wondering if Ray Allen of Fresno might have mentored or "guided" a young EAR, or if EAR was a member of Ray Allen's "crew" back in the early 70s and gone out on his own?
Thanks for reading. I hope there is way to see who all the members of Ray Allen's crew were. Maybe Fresno LE still have notes on him and them.
www.sfgate.com/news/article/Double-life-of-a-Death-Row-killer-Charismatic-2506688.php#photo-2680438