JJD Would Call in Sick at Auburn PD

[sammyt]

Apr 19, 2019 5:17:49 GMT elir said:

Why didn’t police see the signs JJD was the EAR and VR? This happens time and time again when police, teachers, medical professionals, minsters/priests have a predator in their midst, even moreso 40 years ago.

The person gets away with it for a long time until a colleague speaks up or more likely enough victims finally push bad hard enough that the agency or organization has little choice but to finally consider that one of their own has caused serious harm to others . Institutional blindness , individual fear of retribution for calling out a colleague without firm evidence of misconduct, lack of clear guidelines on reporting and following thorough on complaints, being too immersed in the immediate work at hand to consider the work environment. Probably at lot more , too.
I’m not excusing the behaviors but trying get my mind around the non-nefarious reasons that people fail to recognize or report incidents or suspicions. We tend to question our own perceptions , what we saw or heard, rather than believe someone we know may have done something terrible.

Institutional blindness is a good reason for why JJD was never really suspected.

The thing that gets me though is the number of LE cheerleaders who claimed that the original investigators had investigated the police with a fine tooth comb.

Turns out that McGowan stopped looking through local police files for the VR when the ransackings stopped abruptly - despite being sure he recognised the VR from somewhere.

Sac police didn't even look at JJD when he was caught stealing dog repellent in RC and then gave up his career and pension without any sort of a fight.

As for Chief Willock... well failing to realise that the home invading, former head of the anti-burglary unit, with a house full of stolen goods, may be guilty of other home invasion crimes is institutional blindness at it's worst.

JJD knew when to get out of town, and as a former cop also knew that once a crime series had stopped, the cops would move straight on to more current crimes.

[goldrusher]

I often think about how he had the time to commit crimes in places like Concord, San Ramon, Walnut Creek, etc. while still employed as a cop in Auburn. 

[starsky]

Apr 19, 2019 6:04:01 GMT nick said:

Apr 19, 2019 5:17:49 GMT elir said:

Why didn’t police see the signs JJD was the EAR and VR? This happens time and time again when police, teachers, medical professionals, minsters/priests have a predator in their midst, even moreso 40 years ago.

The person gets away with it for a long time until a colleague speaks up or more likely enough victims finally push bad hard enough that the agency or organization has little choice but to finally consider that one of their own has caused serious harm to others . Institutional blindness , individual fear of retribution for calling out a colleague without firm evidence of misconduct, lack of clear guidelines on reporting and following thorough on complaints, being too immersed in the immediate work at hand to consider the work environment. Probably at lot more , too.
I’m not excusing the behaviors but trying get my mind around the non-nefarious reasons that people fail to recognize or report incidents or suspicions. We tend to question our own perceptions , what we saw or heard, rather than believe someone we know may have done something terrible.

JJD was not like the other known serial offenders of this type he so completely compartmentalized his different lives that it was never obvious to those around him.

JJD was not the only cop fired during this time frame and in fact there were many in the Sacramento and surrounding communities that were fired for much more bizarre behaviors. The city of Davis had an officer who was accused of peeping while on duty he was fired when the DA of Yolo was unable to get a conviction for this activity and then was caught peeping as a civilian and sent to prison after serving his time he returned again to peeping and was rearrested sent back to prison for violation of parole.

There was also a Sacramento Deputy fired because he opened fire on a building under construction with an illegal firearm while on duty after he bragged about it they did not have enough evidence to convict him but he was fired. He fired over 150 rounds into a build in Rancho Cordova and then was assigned the call for shots fired in which the disposition of the call was UTL (unable to Locate) after he performed an area check.

I have many other stories of LE officers fired for very strange behaviors so much more than shop lifting.

But just because other cops are fired, is no argument that LE can ignore them. All bad cops should have been top suspects, especially since LE already suspected EAR had military or LE background. And when you consider that 20% of LE have military backgrounds, that connection should've been profiled to the very top.

IMO, though, the big issue with this whole case has less to do with overlooking LE suspects, and more to do with LE"s fixation on composites. If over 40 years the composites led to nothing, their role should've been downplayed, and other aspects brought to the top. If in March of 2018 someone had posted an old photo of JJD and said he had a Sac area criminal record, the response would've been "meh". On the other hand, Morph posted one years back that was a perfect match, and we all raved, saying that he had to be EAR. LE was no different from us in that regard. Shelby was all over composites, as were all other jurisdictions. I can see how Auburn LE might react the same way.

The composites led to instant reactions, and prevented deeper considerations, such as military background, job, timeline, location, behavior. Even the FBI in 2016 highlighted the composites on media and billboards. Probably 99% of all POI's started with composites. And I think the composites are the major if not only reason many considered that the VR was not EAR. The hard data was so obvious, yet many in LE doubted, including Shelby, based on either composites or hypnosis.

[eggirl]

Starsky, very good post about composites. I will add it to my two other factors dragging the case: (1) Crimes spread out over a decade and three regions, only slowly connected (2) general "consensus" that he was about 10 years younger than he turned out to be, and (3) composite chaos. To this day I can't keep track which composites from the Maggiore murders were people that were cleared, since they all still seem to pop up in the media and press conferences.--Sacramento Survivor.

[sammyt]

May 3, 2019 17:51:23 GMT starsky said:

Apr 19, 2019 6:04:01 GMT nick said:

JJD was not like the other known serial offenders of this type he so completely compartmentalized his different lives that it was never obvious to those around him.

JJD was not the only cop fired during this time frame and in fact there were many in the Sacramento and surrounding communities that were fired for much more bizarre behaviors. The city of Davis had an officer who was accused of peeping while on duty he was fired when the DA of Yolo was unable to get a conviction for this activity and then was caught peeping as a civilian and sent to prison after serving his time he returned again to peeping and was rearrested sent back to prison for violation of parole.

There was also a Sacramento Deputy fired because he opened fire on a building under construction with an illegal firearm while on duty after he bragged about it they did not have enough evidence to convict him but he was fired. He fired over 150 rounds into a build in Rancho Cordova and then was assigned the call for shots fired in which the disposition of the call was UTL (unable to Locate) after he performed an area check.

I have many other stories of LE officers fired for very strange behaviors so much more than shop lifting.

But just because other cops are fired, is no argument that LE can ignore them. All bad cops should have been top suspects, especially since LE already suspected EAR had military or LE background. And when you consider that 20% of LE have military backgrounds, that connection should've been profiled to the very top.

IMO, though, the big issue with this whole case has less to do with overlooking LE suspects, and more to do with LE"s fixation on composites. If over 40 years the composites led to nothing, their role should've been downplayed, and other aspects brought to the top. If in March of 2018 someone had posted an old photo of JJD and said he had a Sac area criminal record, the response would've been "meh". On the other hand, Morph posted one years back that was a perfect match, and we all raved, saying that he had to be EAR. LE was no different from us in that regard. Shelby was all over composites, as were all other jurisdictions. I can see how Auburn LE might react the same way.

The composites led to instant reactions, and prevented deeper considerations, such as military background, job, timeline, location, behavior. Even the FBI in 2016 highlighted the composites on media and billboards. Probably 99% of all POI's started with composites. And I think the composites are the major if not only reason many considered that the VR was not EAR. The hard data was so obvious, yet many in LE doubted, including Shelby, based on either composites or hypnosis.

I agree with what you're saying about the general composite confusion and the lack of investigating and profiling of LE/military cops.

However, I doubt very much that the response would have been 'meh' if a photo of JJD had emerged along with details of his arrest for shoplifting dog repellent.

Once the 'Bonnie engagement' and 'JJD to lead anti burglary unit' articles emerged, I think he would have been everyone here's prime suspect no.1.

[Red909XMZ1]

Hi Elir,

Your post is so outstanding! You are so very on the mark regarding institutional blindness!

Sadly, I see and experience institutional blindness every single day in my field of work.

In the educational field, the parents can also be a culprit, too, not just the institution.

Yes, there are teachers, administrators, and support staff that can turn a blind eye, or whom don't care, or lack specialized knowledge/training or funding to deal with certain issues, but I definitely am not one of them.

For example, I am in my classroom right now, after contacting a parent about their repeat offender child.

What educators mostly come up against when dealing with students who are egregious, repeat offenders, are their parents who are in complete denial.

I have warned so many parents where their child is headed, and when I meet with a parent who is in complete denial, inevitably that child goes down a path of total destruction.

When a parent is willing to partner with me to seriously address the extreme behavior their child is displaying, the child gets remarkably better. Almost. Every. Single. Time.

Thanks again, Elir, for the spot-on, extremely intelligent post!

[sammyt]

Did JJD ever arrest any prowlers or burglars during his time as a cop? I'd like to see the burglary stats for before, during and after JJD's spell as head of the anti burglary unit.

I've read a couple of newspaper articles about the 'hero cop' unsuccessfully pursuing burglars, but no articles about him ever catching anyone in the act.

I wonder if JJD had a twisted 'we look after our own' attitude, and if his real loyalty was actually always with his fellow home invaders.

[kg]

May 8, 2019 13:35:28 GMT sammyt said:

Did JJD ever arrest any prowlers or burglars during his time as a cop? I'd like to see the burglary stats for before, during and after JJD's spell as head of the anti burglary unit.

I've read a couple of newspaper articles about the 'hero cop' unsuccessfully pursuing burglars, but no articles about him ever catching anyone in the act.

I wonder if JJD had a twisted 'we look after our own' attitude, and if his real loyalty was actually always with his fellow home invaders.

I saw the numbers somewhere on the impact of JJD's special burglary task force in Visalia.  Noticeable missing were the statistics that would indicate whether or not the drop was statistically significant because you could not tell based on the raw numbers, still looked like a whole lot of burglary from hell going on to me.

[sammyt]

Did Officer Joe ever take part in any stakeouts when he was an anti-burglary cop?

Or did he keep it well hidden that he had spent more man hours hiding, sitting, waiting and watching people than any other cop in the country?

I wasn't surprised to read that JJD sat completely motionless for hours on end in police custody. He had years of practice keeping still, not moving a muscle.

[dementedavenger]

May 3, 2019 15:46:53 GMT sammyt said:

Paul Holes didn't even think EAR was the VR - and Holes had access to all the case files.

If the lead detective couldn't even detect that very obvious piece of the puzzle, then we should indeed be thankful for the technological progress.

How is the EAR also being the VR “obvious”? It’s obvious now because there is a suspect in custody due to DNA for the EAR/ONS crimes who lived in Exeter at the same time and matched the Identikit drawing. It wasn’t obvious before then. It was plausible, but it was also plausible that the EAR never was in Visalia.

[sammyt]

May 24, 2019 12:47:43 GMT dementedavenger said:

May 3, 2019 15:46:53 GMT sammyt said:

Paul Holes didn't even think EAR was the VR - and Holes had access to all the case files.

If the lead detective couldn't even detect that very obvious piece of the puzzle, then we should indeed be thankful for the technological progress.

How is the EAR also being the VR “obvious”? It’s obvious now because there is a suspect in custody due to DNA for the EAR/ONS crimes who lived in Exeter at the same time and matched the Identikit drawing. It wasn’t obvious before then. It was plausible, but it was also plausible that the EAR never was in Visalia.

It was obvious (at least IMO) when you looked at the huge number of weird behavioural similarities the two offenders shared.

This isn't being wise after the event... former poster 'redding' spent years convincing people that the VR had to be EAR.   

It was hard to argue with him when he hit you with fifty or so extremely close matches between the two offenders.

Back in the day I hadn't heard about the RC cat burglar crimes etc, but practically all home invasion serial rapists have a background of burglary and nuisance/sexually motivated burglary long before they ever start raping victims, so EAR had to have served his home invading apprenticeship somewhere...

[sammyt]

'Redding2' knew the score - all these posts are from BEFORE the arrest of DeAngelo:


"There are over 50 commonalities between the EAR and the VR. The physical descriptions match, right down to the shoe size. In fact Mcgowan said that he was 5'10" 160lbs."

"...it really wouldn't be wise to not make the VR EAR connection because one investigator, Holes, doesn't think they are the same."

"What would be interesting would be to do a geographic profile of the 1972/73 Rancho Cordova burglar...."

"The early activity of the 1972/73 Rancho burglar indicates that this guy was a full grown man by 1972."

"The odds of a Sacramento resident moving to Visalia in 1974 and then back to Sacramento in 1976 would have to be greater than one in ten thousand."

"...even if there is only a 25% chance that they are the same, law enforcement should be asking the public for the names of people that moved from Sacramento to Visalia at that time."

"There is no confirmed VR activity on that day. The Oct. rape was preceded by a week of typical EAR prowler activity in the surrounding neighborhood. Then nothing. This indicates that the GSK was back in town for a week from Visalia when the rape happened. So rather than weakening the connection it fits right in with someone that grew up in Rancho and then moved to Visalia for work..."

"If there is a 50% chance that the the VR is the EAR then they should be asking publicly for the names of anyone that moved to and from Rancho Cordova..."

"We are talking about two guys that match in dozens of ways and they both emptied out pill bottles."

"The VR stole an antique billy club, and the EAR used a billy club that fit that description. The 1972/73 burglar in Rancho stole blue chip stamps and so did the VR. It all fits..."

[sammyt]

Post by 'redding2' made a month before the arrest of DeAngelo:



General Characteristics Shared By VR & EAR:


-Same general physical description. Age, weight, height, shoe size are all consistent.

-Strong or muscular , but not bodybuilder type. Strong shoulders, arms & hands.

-Agile fence jumper, walked/biked several miles per night.

-Pale or very light complexion.

-Left handed or strongly ambidextrous.

-Size 9 shoes

-Ski mask

-Gloves (including brown cotton in both cases)

-Dark clothing & Army Green.

-Armed with snub nosed revolvers.

-Growl/Whisper/Clenched teeth covering high pitched voice when excited.

-Used set commands scubas : "Shut up or I'll stab you"

-Used lotion at scene, sometimes brought the lotion with him

-Placed chairs under door knobs to prevent entry.

-Opened multiple escape routes, including interior doors/windows, and outside gates.

-Used improvised alarms including dishes, chairs & bedroom doors tied shut.

-Stopped and shot when being chased

-VR & early EAR victims moved outside after being awakened in bed. Outdoor scenes pre-selected and prepared

-Victims woke to find attacker on top of them in bed, hand over moth/nose being suffocated.

-Uses ditches, bike paths, canals, riverbeds, open spaces, vacant lots, orchards, railroad tracks, and power easements to travel unseen, avoid detection, and escape if chased.

-Took costume jewelry, but left expensive pieces in plain view. Often took one earring from a pair, or multiple pairs at the same scene. Dumped out jewelry boxes or displayed them after moving to odd locations.

-Took class rings, cuff-links, one cuff-link from a pair, rings, and favored personalized/engraved items. Stole piggy banks and guns.

-Photos of residents were moved, torn up, broken in their frames, turned not their faces, and stolen. Attacker took the time to go through photo albums and removed some of the photos.

-Rifled through and moved purses, often found dumped out, and left in backyards.

-Stole coins. Emptied penny jars and piggy banks. Also target silver dollars, collectible, and foreign coins. Often left other cash in plain view or displayed.

-Ransacked all rooms, including kitchen drawers/cupboards, closets, dressers & desks.

-Stole items from attack scenes, and then left them at other break-ins or yards.

-Brought bottles and cans to the scenes and left them outside and in the kitchens. No fingerprints.

-Victims received hang-up & threatening phone calls, before and after attacks.

-Food was taken from the refrigerators and left in odd places, often outside, or in neighbor's yards.

-Used stolen bikes as transportation, and left them in front of nearby homes, not the yards of the attacks. Ditched the bikes and fled on foot through ditches if being chased.

-Window screens were remove, left in odd places, and put bak in place to cover activities.

-Depending on the scene, closed drapes were opened to warn of someone approaching, and open drapes were closed to hide his activities.

-Almost all homes were single-story, ranch style homes in solely middle-class neighborhoods. Favored homes on cue-de-sacs, corner houses, and those that bordered ditches, parks, orchards, or fields.

-Rotated attacks in multiple neighborhoods with no discernible pattern. EAR later rotated attacks in different cities in the same manner

-Returned to hit the same neighborhoods over a period of months or years.

-Antique police billy club used in August 29, 1976 EAR attack mashed the description of one stolen in October 24, 1975 VR case.

-Used improvised step stools from items found in backyards.

-VR targets, and almost all early EAR attacks were teenage girls with long hair.

-Victims were punched, kicked or bludgeoned when attacker was frustrated.

-Turned off or disabled A/C and heating units.

[redding2]

May 24, 2019 14:36:16 GMT sammyt said:

'Redding2' knew the score - all these posts are from BEFORE the arrest of DeAngelo:


"There are over 50 commonalities between the EAR and the VR. The physical descriptions match, right down to the shoe size. In fact Mcgowan said that he was 5'10" 160lbs."

"...it really wouldn't be wise to not make the VR EAR connection because one investigator, Holes, doesn't think they are the same."

"What would be interesting would be to do a geographic profile of the 1972/73 Rancho Cordova burglar...."

"The early activity of the 1972/73 Rancho burglar indicates that this guy was a full grown man by 1972."

"The odds of a Sacramento resident moving to Visalia in 1974 and then back to Sacramento in 1976 would have to be greater than one in ten thousand."

"...even if there is only a 25% chance that they are the same, law enforcement should be asking the public for the names of people that moved from Sacramento to Visalia at that time."

"There is no confirmed VR activity on that day. The Oct. rape was preceded by a week of typical EAR prowler activity in the surrounding neighborhood. Then nothing. This indicates that the GSK was back in town for a week from Visalia when the rape happened. So rather than weakening the connection it fits right in with someone that grew up in Rancho and then moved to Visalia for work..."

"If there is a 50% chance that the the VR is the EAR then they should be asking publicly for the names of anyone that moved to and from Rancho Cordova..."

"We are talking about two guys that match in dozens of ways and they both emptied out pill bottles."

"The VR stole an antique billy club, and the EAR used a billy club that fit that description. The 1972/73 burglar in Rancho stole blue chip stamps and so did the VR. It all fits..."

Well I was right about some things dead wrong about others.  Even a stopped clock is right twice a day....

[Deleted]

May 24, 2019 20:56:52 GMT redding2 said:

May 24, 2019 14:36:16 GMT sammyt said:

'Redding2' knew the score - all these posts are from BEFORE the arrest of DeAngelo:


"There are over 50 commonalities between the EAR and the VR. The physical descriptions match, right down to the shoe size. In fact Mcgowan said that he was 5'10" 160lbs."

"...it really wouldn't be wise to not make the VR EAR connection because one investigator, Holes, doesn't think they are the same."

"What would be interesting would be to do a geographic profile of the 1972/73 Rancho Cordova burglar...."

"The early activity of the 1972/73 Rancho burglar indicates that this guy was a full grown man by 1972."

"The odds of a Sacramento resident moving to Visalia in 1974 and then back to Sacramento in 1976 would have to be greater than one in ten thousand."

"...even if there is only a 25% chance that they are the same, law enforcement should be asking the public for the names of people that moved from Sacramento to Visalia at that time."

"There is no confirmed VR activity on that day. The Oct. rape was preceded by a week of typical EAR prowler activity in the surrounding neighborhood. Then nothing. This indicates that the GSK was back in town for a week from Visalia when the rape happened. So rather than weakening the connection it fits right in with someone that grew up in Rancho and then moved to Visalia for work..."

"If there is a 50% chance that the the VR is the EAR then they should be asking publicly for the names of anyone that moved to and from Rancho Cordova..."

"We are talking about two guys that match in dozens of ways and they both emptied out pill bottles."

"The VR stole an antique billy club, and the EAR used a billy club that fit that description. The 1972/73 burglar in Rancho stole blue chip stamps and so did the VR. It all fits..."

Well I was right about some things dead wrong about others.  Even a stopped clock is right twice a day....

You should still be commended for laying out your case the way you did and sticking to your belief that VR = EAR.

It was very hard pre arrest to understand why Holes was so adamant that they weren't the same. But, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

Without the DNA breakthrough, I still really think JJD would have been identified by someone like yourself, who knew he was VR and had the means to investigate the move made FROM the Visalia area, and then subsequently track him to Sacramento area.

If above said "someone" was also also adamant that he was LE, it would have only been a matter of time.