Known Victims: Keith Call and Sandra Hailey

[tosh]

Jul 19, 2022 15:19:50 GMT daedra said:

Jul 19, 2022 12:25:31 GMT tosh said:

Hi Kjfit I can’t open that link because I’m the EU but does the link refer to the murder of Joanne Betchy? There were a spate of attacks on employees around that time, another employee called Annette ? was also murdered. I think it was because of those murders that stores employed security for night staff. Liberty security provided security for Little Sue I believe and I have also wondered if Liberty provided security for the 7-11 in Tabb.
The confidential tip about them being seen at the gas station came in 2010 - waiting 22 years to come forward and wanting to remain confidential suggests that person was still afraid of someone out there. Steven Spingola covers the tip in his pamphlet “Predators on the Parkway”.

Article text for the EU sleuths.....  


Newport News detectives reopen 1988 cold case murder of 7-Eleven clerk

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (WAVY) — Newport News recently reopened its cold case unit, and detectives are now reexamining one of the most violent unsolved cases in the city, the murder of a 7-Eleven clerk 31 years ago.



It was January 22, 1988. Joanne Betchy was working alone on the overnight shift at the 7-Eleven on Jefferson Avenue in Woodcreek.



Betchy was a 35-year-old with a friendly smile and two mouths to feed at home. “No one we talked to had a negative word to say about her, she was always nice when people came into the store, everyone remembers her,” Detective A.M. Thornton told WAVY.com.



Betchy was bludgeoned to death and possibly raped.



A customer who came into the store that night couldn’t find a worker and called police around 1:30 a.m. Officers responded and found Betchy’s body in a bloody back room.



There were no surveillance cameras back then, and not many people around at the time. Detectives are hoping new DNA technology and help from the community will connect them to the killer.



“They might believe this person is deceased or not in the area anymore, so they may feel more comfortable coming forward. That’s what we’re hoping for,” Thornton said.



He wants to close the book on the case, to bring closure to Betchy’s now grown children and to bring a message to criminals in Newport News.



“We’re never going to stop looking for them, we’re never going to stop investigating these cases.”



If you have information that can help solve this case, call the Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP or text a tip using the P3tips app on your cell phone.

Thanks Deadra 😀 yes, that’s the one. There’s some discussion about that case and the murder of Annette Singleton over on the 7-Eleven thread.

[dickere]

Jul 19, 2022 15:19:50 GMT daedra said:

Jul 19, 2022 12:25:31 GMT tosh said:

Hi Kjfit I can’t open that link because I’m the EU but does the link refer to the murder of Joanne Betchy? There were a spate of attacks on employees around that time, another employee called Annette ? was also murdered. I think it was because of those murders that stores employed security for night staff. Liberty security provided security for Little Sue I believe and I have also wondered if Liberty provided security for the 7-11 in Tabb.
The confidential tip about them being seen at the gas station came in 2010 - waiting 22 years to come forward and wanting to remain confidential suggests that person was still afraid of someone out there. Steven Spingola covers the tip in his pamphlet “Predators on the Parkway”.

Article text for the EU sleuths.....  


Newport News detectives reopen 1988 cold case murder of 7-Eleven clerk

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (WAVY) — Newport News recently reopened its cold case unit, and detectives are now reexamining one of the most violent unsolved cases in the city, the murder of a 7-Eleven clerk 31 years ago.



It was January 22, 1988. Joanne Betchy was working alone on the overnight shift at the 7-Eleven on Jefferson Avenue in Woodcreek.



Betchy was a 35-year-old with a friendly smile and two mouths to feed at home. “No one we talked to had a negative word to say about her, she was always nice when people came into the store, everyone remembers her,” Detective A.M. Thornton told WAVY.com.



Betchy was bludgeoned to death and possibly raped.



A customer who came into the store that night couldn’t find a worker and called police around 1:30 a.m. Officers responded and found Betchy’s body in a bloody back room.



There were no surveillance cameras back then, and not many people around at the time. Detectives are hoping new DNA technology and help from the community will connect them to the killer.



“They might believe this person is deceased or not in the area anymore, so they may feel more comfortable coming forward. That’s what we’re hoping for,” Thornton said.



He wants to close the book on the case, to bring closure to Betchy’s now grown children and to bring a message to criminals in Newport News.



“We’re never going to stop looking for them, we’re never going to stop investigating these cases.”



If you have information that can help solve this case, call the Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP or text a tip using the P3tips app on your cell phone.

Thanks Daedra, appreciated.

[kjfit]

Jul 19, 2022 15:19:50 GMT daedra said:

Jul 19, 2022 12:25:31 GMT tosh said:

Hi Kjfit I can’t open that link because I’m the EU but does the link refer to the murder of Joanne Betchy? There were a spate of attacks on employees around that time, another employee called Annette ? was also murdered. I think it was because of those murders that stores employed security for night staff. Liberty security provided security for Little Sue I believe and I have also wondered if Liberty provided security for the 7-11 in Tabb.
The confidential tip about them being seen at the gas station came in 2010 - waiting 22 years to come forward and wanting to remain confidential suggests that person was still afraid of someone out there. Steven Spingola covers the tip in his pamphlet “Predators on the Parkway”.

Article text for the EU sleuths.....  


Newport News detectives reopen 1988 cold case murder of 7-Eleven clerk

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (WAVY) — Newport News recently reopened its cold case unit, and detectives are now reexamining one of the most violent unsolved cases in the city, the murder of a 7-Eleven clerk 31 years ago.



It was January 22, 1988. Joanne Betchy was working alone on the overnight shift at the 7-Eleven on Jefferson Avenue in Woodcreek.



Betchy was a 35-year-old with a friendly smile and two mouths to feed at home. “No one we talked to had a negative word to say about her, she was always nice when people came into the store, everyone remembers her,” Detective A.M. Thornton told WAVY.com.



Betchy was bludgeoned to death and possibly raped.



A customer who came into the store that night couldn’t find a worker and called police around 1:30 a.m. Officers responded and found Betchy’s body in a bloody back room.



There were no surveillance cameras back then, and not many people around at the time. Detectives are hoping new DNA technology and help from the community will connect them to the killer.



“They might believe this person is deceased or not in the area anymore, so they may feel more comfortable coming forward. That’s what we’re hoping for,” Thornton said.



He wants to close the book on the case, to bring closure to Betchy’s now grown children and to bring a message to criminals in Newport News.



“We’re never going to stop looking for them, we’re never going to stop investigating these cases.”



If you have information that can help solve this case, call the Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP or text a tip using the P3tips app on your cell phone.

Thanks daedra, sorry for just leaving the link. Thanks for posting the article🙂

[vc15]

Not sure if this was ever brought up here but was watching Unsolved Mysteries on youtube and notice the wanted poster over the detectives shoulder youtu.be/-3gXUd7XMCA?t=159

[tosh]

Jan 7, 2023 17:13:07 GMT vc15 said:

Not sure if this was ever brought up here but was watching Unsolved Mysteries on youtube and notice the wanted poster over the detectives shoulder youtu.be/-3gXUd7XMCA?t=159

Can you screenshot it please? Unfortunately I can’t view it in my country.

[vc15]

Jan 9, 2023 15:19:57 GMT tosh said:

Jan 7, 2023 17:13:07 GMT vc15 said:

Not sure if this was ever brought up here but was watching Unsolved Mysteries on youtube and notice the wanted poster over the detectives shoulder youtu.be/-3gXUd7XMCA?t=159

Can you screenshot it please? Unfortunately I can’t view it in my country.

Screenshots are blacked out. But its the missing poster of Keith and Sandra

[billthom56]

Not sure if this will come through. Here is cropped version of the Keith Call/Cassandra Hailey missing poster from 1988.



Thanks.



Bill Thomas

[kjfit]

Jan 14, 2023 22:44:12 GMT billthom56 said:

Not sure if this will come through. Here is cropped version of the Keith Call/Cassandra Hailey missing poster from 1988.

View Attachment

Thanks.



Bill Thomas

I remember seeing those posters all over the area back then. Can't believe all of these years later it's still unsolved.

It's great news that they're sending out evidence to new labs and that investigations continue. Recently there have been quite a few crimes committed decades ago finally solved largely due to advanced DNA testing.

[billthom56]

Jan 19, 2023 21:20:44 GMT kjfit said:

Jan 14, 2023 22:44:12 GMT billthom56 said:

Not sure if this will come through. Here is cropped version of the Keith Call/Cassandra Hailey missing poster from 1988.

View Attachment

Thanks.



Bill Thomas

I remember seeing those posters all over the area back then. Can't believe all of these years later it's still unsolved.

It's great news that they're sending out evidence to new labs and that investigations continue. Recently there have been quite a few crimes committed decades ago finally solved largely due to advanced DNA testing.

KJT:

We sure hope so!



Bill Thomas

[tosh]

For reference, incident report from npshistory.com
April 12, 1988
88-55 - Colonial - Search

Location: York River Overlook

On the evening of April 9th, R.C. and C.H. attended a party in nearby Newport News and left between 12:30 and 1:30 the following morning. At 7:30 a.m. on the 10th, R.C.'s father saw his son's car parked at York River Overlook on Colonial Parkway while on his way to work. The driver's door was open, the keys were in the ignition, and clothing, wallets and personal effects were lying inside. He closed the car's door, then continued on his way. A patrol ranger discovered the car shortly thereafter; when a hasty search of the area proved fruitless, he called for assistance. A local search dog unit was called in. Since the unit was having a meeting when called, all 15 dog teams arrived. The dogs found two separate tracks - one leading to Indian Field Creek and the other leading to the York River. A Coast Guard helicopter checked adjacent marshes and shoreline within the park, but found nothing. The search dogs were trained to scent bodies underwater, so they were placed in Coast Guard boats and water areas were checked. Dive teams were also brought in. Neither dogs nor divers found any sign of the two. The search was resumed on the 11th. The dog teams and divers again searched the area, rangers employed an NPS boat to conduct a check the river's shore, and personnel from nearby Navy bases conducted an intensive ground search of the parkway. Nothing was found, so the search was terminated at 3:30 pm. The FBI was called in later in the day; they officially took over the case, and sent 13 agents to investigate. Boat and air searches of the river and shoreline are continuing.

[billthom56]

Mar 3, 2023 10:45:44 GMT tosh said:

For reference, incident report from npshistory.com
April 12, 1988
88-55 - Colonial - Search

Location: York River Overlook

On the evening of April 9th, R.C. and C.H. attended a party in nearby Newport News and left between 12:30 and 1:30 the following morning. At 7:30 a.m. on the 10th, R.C.'s father saw his son's car parked at York River Overlook on Colonial Parkway while on his way to work. The driver's door was open, the keys were in the ignition, and clothing, wallets and personal effects were lying inside. He closed the car's door, then continued on his way. A patrol ranger discovered the car shortly thereafter; when a hasty search of the area proved fruitless, he called for assistance. A local search dog unit was called in. Since the unit was having a meeting when called, all 15 dog teams arrived. The dogs found two separate tracks - one leading to Indian Field Creek and the other leading to the York River. A Coast Guard helicopter checked adjacent marshes and shoreline within the park, but found nothing. The search dogs were trained to scent bodies underwater, so they were placed in Coast Guard boats and water areas were checked. Dive teams were also brought in. Neither dogs nor divers found any sign of the two. The search was resumed on the 11th. The dog teams and divers again searched the area, rangers employed an NPS boat to conduct a check the river's shore, and personnel from nearby Navy bases conducted an intensive ground search of the parkway. Nothing was found, so the search was terminated at 3:30 pm. The FBI was called in later in the day; they officially took over the case, and sent 13 agents to investigate. Boat and air searches of the river and shoreline are continuing.

Tosh:

Good summary of the search for Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey.

I saw a number of members of the Call family at the mem orial service for Keith Call this past weekend in Gloucester County, VA

13 News Now:  35 years later: Family of Colonial Parkway murder victim holds memorial

Keith Call, the CNU student disappeared on 1988 while on a date with Cassandra Hailey. Now, 35 years after his disappearance, his family is keeping his memory alive.

www.13newsnow.com/article/news/local/colonial-parkway-murders-keith-call/291-cdaa5740-3d00-49e6-b9a1-a7bce8a2de38?fbclid=IwAR3xZoqpVsHH6dXE_HfTcWQEvrKx9MRordPGcIvplWvtK8jNs5BXLMZKpSs

Thanks.



Bill Thomas

[billthom56]

More coverage of Keith Call's memorial:

WTVR CBS News 6: Memorial for Colonial Parkway murder victim renews calls for justice

www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/memorial-for-colonial-parkway-murder-victim-renews-calls-for-justice-october-12-2023

Thanks.


Bill Thomas

[billthom56]

Andy Fox reports on Keith Call's memorial service:

WAVY TV 10 News Colonial Parkway murder victims to be remembered

www.wavy.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murder-victims-to-be-remembered/

Thanks.



Bill Thomas

[tosh]

Copying post from Knobling/Edwards thread to here as relevant.

Jan 19, 2024 10:23:55 GMT tosh said:

Jan 19, 2024 3:56:48 GMT vrextar said:

Makes you wonder if it was Wilmer and if so, was the van being used to move their remains to/from where they were killed to wherever they were left?

If there were two people involved the van could have been one of the killers collecting his van from Ringfield after leaving Keith’s car at the turnout. The other accomplice was in a boat. The behaviour of the van driver has always perplexed me though, surely by coming up fast behind Keith’s brother they only served to bring attention to themselves and place themselves near the scene of Keith’s abandoned car? From p.206, A Special Kind of Evil, B. Pardoe - “he even admitted to being at the next cutoff around the right time”. Maybe the FBI did trace the van Keith’s brother saw.
Going to copy this post over to the Call/Hailey thread.

[tosh]

Keith’s first job was at Glass Marine, Hayes and he loved to spend hours sailing his brother’s boat. I wonder if he ever came across A.Wilmer, needle in a haystack I know though given the amount of sailors and watermen in the area.