Ellen G White / Excitements Crave

[schnauzer]

1.Excitements Crave : ( EAR/ONS )

The appetite is educated to crave something stronger which will have a tendency to keep up and increase the agreeable excitement, until indulgence becomes habit, and there is a continual craving for stronger stimulus, as tobacco, wines, and liquors. ( Ellen G White )




Soon ordinary food does not satisfy the appetite. The system feels a want, a craving, for something more stimulating.

( Ellen G White )



Men seek the excitement of stimulants; because for the time the results are agreeable. But their is always a reaction.

(Ellen G White )



Appetite has become so perverted that it is constantly craving some hurtful gratification. As a guide it cannot now be trusted. ( Ellen G White )



They stimulate the love of pleasure and excitement, thus fostering a distaste for useful labor. ( Ellen G White )



You must have quite rest, freedom from all excitement and from all disagreeable cares. ( Ellen G White )



There was never an excitement among those present during a vision; nothing caused fear. ( Ellen G White )



A diet of chiefly or wholly vegetable is best adapted to alloy passionate excitement. Flesh meat diet is more stimulating than vegetable. Consequently it is plain that all those who suffer from too high venereal excitement, should abandon it. ( Ellen G White )



You Place on your table butter, eggs, and meat, and your children partake of them. They are fed with the very things that will excite their animal passions. ( Ellen G White )



Holidays are numerous: games and horse racing draw thousands, and the whirl of excitement and ;pleasure attracks them away from their sober duties of life. ( Ellen G White )


The continual craving for pleasurable amusements reveals the deep longings of the soul. But those who drink at this fountain of worldly pleasure, will find their soul-thirst still unsatisfied. they are deceived, they mistaken mirth for happiness; and when the excitement ceases; many sink down into the depths of despondency and despair. O what madness , what folly to forsake the fountain of living waters. For the broken cisterns of worldly pleasure. ( Ellen G White )


The desire for excitement and pleasing entertainment is a temptation and a snare to God's people. ( Ellen G white )



Many infants are extremely susceptible to nervous excitement. ( Ellen G White )



The whirl of excitement and pleasure seeking. ( Ellen G white )



Those darling idols create an excitement. ( Ellen G White )






2. All Those Mortal's Surviving Birth Upon Reaching Maturity : (EAR/ONS)


Far too little thought is given to the cause underling the mortality, the disease and degeneracy, that exist today, even in most civilized and favored lands. The human race is deteriorating. More than one third die in infancy. ( written in 1905 by Ellen G White )



Among those who do reach maturity, " in many cases " the child may be deficient, in physical and mental strength, and moral worth. ( Ellen G White )


Those to whom the care of the little child is committed are too often ignorant of its physical needs; they know little of the laws of health or the principles of development. Nor are they better fitted to care for its mental and spiritual growth. They may be qualified to conduct business or to shine in society; they may have made creditable attainments in literature and science; but of the training of a child they have little knowledge. It is chiefly because of this lack, especially because of the early neglect of physical development, that so large a proportion of the human race die in infancy, and of those who reach maturity there are so many to whom life is but a burden. ( Ellen G White )



3. Take Inventory Of Their Worth to Prevailing Society. ( EAR/ONS )




Yet we all need to take inventory of our lives. ( Ellen G White )



The conditions prevailing in society, and especially in the great cities of the nation. ( Ellen G White )





4. Choosing Values Become A Task Oneself Must Seek Satisfaction:( EAR/ONS )




Many parents whose children have been spoiled by indulgence, leave to the teacher the unpleasant task of repairing their neglect: And then by their own course they make his task almost hopeless. ( Ellen G White )



I will harmonize all those apparent contradictions to my own satisfaction. ( Ellen G White )



Condiment and spices used in the preparation of food for the table aid in digestion in the same way that, tea coffee , and liquor are supposed to help the laboring man perform his task. ( Ellen G White )





5. The Selected Route Will Unmask Character When Plans Take Action EAR/ONS )




Which will reveal truth and unmask error. ( Ellen G White )



Satan's words appeared to be true, and Christ came to unmask the deceiver. ( Ellen G White )



Unmask the Pretentious. ( Ellen G White )



The enemy unmasked. ( Ellen G White )



The arch deceiver has been fully unmasked. ( Ellen G White )




God estimates men as men , with him, character decides worth. ( Ellen G White )



God provided the conditions most favorable for the development of character, he made provision also for their social needs. ( Ellen G White )




What will be the character and influence of the home they are founding. ( Ellen G White )



God by revealing his character in daily life. ( Ellen G White )



If the moral and religious character of the teachers were what it should be, a better influence would be exerted upon the students. ( Ellen G White )



A Wet nurse substituting for the mother, imparts her temper and temperament to nursing child. Also imparts her moral or immoral character. ( Ellen G White )



If children hear religion slurred and the faith belittled, if they hear sly objections to the truth, these things will fasten in their minds and mold their characters. ( Ellen G White )



If the engagement has been entered into without a full understanding of the character of the one with whom you intend to unite. ( Ellen g White )



Your courtesy and self control will have a greater influence upon the characters of your children than mere words could have. ( Ellen G White )




Teach them that health, character, and even life, are endangered by the use of stimulants, which excite the exhausted energies to unnatural , spasmodic action. ( Ellen G White )




What traits of character should be cultivated so that the child can be happy, useful member of the home circle and a useful citizen later in life. ( Ellen G White )





6. As Is Decorum, Seeking Lore: ( EAR/ONS )





As I see libraries filled with ponderous volumes of historical and theological lore. ( Ellen G White )



Importance of seeking true knowledge. ( Ellen G White )









7. Leisure Tempts Excitement Seeking: ( EAR/ONS )





Interesting employment will keep the mind from leisure for temptation. ( Ellen G White )



The whirl of excitement and pleasure seeking. ( Ellen G White )



The desire for excitement and pleasing entertainment is a temptation and a snare to god's people. ( Ellen G White )






8. Other Now Feel Temptation Call: ( EAR/ONS )





Feeling the terrible power for temptation. ( Ellen G White )



Is the innocent party innocent who refuses sexual relations until the weak companion yields to temptation and commits adultery. ( Ellen G White )



By the indulgence of perverted appetite, man loses his power to resist temptation. ( Ellen G White )



If it is unavoidable for our youth to be placed among those who are impure and intemperate, he will give them strength to resist temptation as he did, Daniel and his associates. ( Ellen G White )



Interesting employment will keep the mind from leisure for temptation. ( Ellen G White )



The desire for excitement and pleasing entertainment is a temptation and a snare to god's people. ( Ellen G White )



That he might understand the force of all temptation where with man is beset. ( Ellen G White )






9. My Planned Exile : ( EAR/ONS )



Ellen G White: She had planned to fight the exile but god instructed her that it was his plan that she go to Australia and speed the work there, so she gladly acquiesced to the injustice of those who wanted her out of their way.

[lepke]

Going with the idea that the poem was in some way inspired by the writings of Ellen G White, it is interesting to know that she was among the people who formed the Seventh-day Adventist Church, possibly pointing in the direction of EAR/ONS having an involvement with it.

[schnauzer]

Yes, I think EAR/ONS is a seven day Adventist. Remember the knife in the cheese box and EAR/ONS also said I'm going to go eat some cheese. Ellen G White: Quoted "Cheese should never be introduced into the human stomach, it is wholly unfit for food." I think for awhile, EAR/ONS was being defiant of his upbringing religion. Note, Cheese, Alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, and the raw pork.

[lepke]

Those are interesting ideas...

[schnauzer]

May 10, 2014 20:14:06 GMT lepke said:

Those are interesting ideas...

Adventist also believe in wearing simple jewelry, just a plain wedding ring and watch. EAR/ONS usually left the expensive jewelry and only took the more simple stuff. Ellen G white didn't believe in wearing ear rings. EAR/ONS really liked to take one ear ring from the victims.

[armchair]

There's a line in the Florida Department of Law Enforcement behavioral profile of EAR/ONS  that opines he might have an affinity with militia or hate groups. I don't know a thing about 7 Day Adventists, but it's interesting to note this about Alaska's own Israel Keyes.


www.splcenter.org/home/2012/spring/alaska-serial-killer-attended-racist-church-knew-terrorists


Confessed serial killer and bank robber Israel Keyes, who committed suicide in an Alaska jail this December, attended a Washington state church with his parents that proselytized the racist and anti-Semitic Christian Identity religion, reliable sources told the Intelligence Report.

The same sources, who have personal knowledge of the situation, said that Keyes and his family had been “neighbors and friends” with the notorious Kehoe family, who lived half a mile away in the same area of Washington state during the 1990s. The Kehoe sons, white supremacists Chevie and Cheyne, are now serving lengthy prison sentences in connection with a deadly rampage they conducted in the name of their Aryan Republican Army, including Chevie Kehoe’s 1996 torture-murder of a family of three in Arkansas.

In addition to living close together in Stevens County, Wash., the Keyes and Kehoe families both home-schooled their children and occasionally attended a Christian Identity church called the Ark, the sources said. Pastored by Dan Henry — who told the Report that he didn’t remember the Keyeses attending but said that they might have — the Ark taught that white people are the superior race and that the Bible is their story. Hard-line Identity followers believe that Jews are biologically Satanic, although many see Jews as merely cursed by God.

Both families also attended another Christian Identity church, the Christian Israel Covenant Church, headed by Henry’s neighbor and former acolyte, the late Ray Barker, the sources said. Barker later facilitated Chevie Kehoe’s 1997 surrender to law enforcement officials in Washington.

It’s not known what Israel Keyes’ beliefs as an adult were, or if they had any relation to the eight people Keyes confessed to murdering after being arrested in March 2012 for the slaying of an Alaska barista. There is no obvious evidence of a racist or anti-Semitic motive in the killings, which took place in Alaska, New York, Vermont and Washington. In interviews that went on for months as officials sought to foment his cooperation, the imprisoned Keyes only identified three of his victims. Officials are not sure who the others are, although they do believe those killings — and, very possibly, several more — did occur.

Another possible sign of Keyes’ religious upbringing is his first name. Although the Keyes family was originally Mormon, they named their elder son Israel. Identity believers often describe themselves as the true “Israel,” meaning that they, not today’s Jews, are the real descendants of the Bible’s Hebrews.

[armchair]

Visalia Seventh-day Adventist Church 1310 S. Woodland Street (across street from College of Sequoias) Visalia, CA 93277 Established 1976 www.visaliasda.org/about-us/

I did a Google Maps search for Visalia, then search nearby for "seventh day." There are a number in surrounding cities. I haven't been able to find church history for other 7DA churches.

7DA church locator
www.adventistdirectory.org/default.aspx?page=findbytype&EntityType=C

[schnauzer]

EAR/ONS used : Granny Knot
Overhand Knot
Square Knot
Half Hitch
Figure 8
Diamond knot

11 Basic Knots for Boy Scouts : Square Knot
Half Hitch
Tautline
Clove Hitch
Timber Hitch
Bowline
Sheet Bend
Overhand Bend
Overhand
Square Bow
Slip or Running Knot

Pathfinders/Adventist Program = Skill level 1:

Granny Knot
Square Knot
Overhand Knot
Clove Hitch/ Two successful half hitches around a object.
Bowline
Carrick Bend
Figure Eight
Fisherman's Knot
Prussik Knot
Sheepshank
Sheetbend
Timber Hitch
Notice the pathfinder club learned the figure 8 and the carrick bend. The carrick bend is used twice in the diamond knot. With just the basic skill level from both programs, only the pathfinder club learned the skill level to tie all the knots EAR/ONS did. Both programs, with more than basic knot tying skills would be suffice though.


I also wanted to add, that on the Sabbath the Adventist have a list of appropriate things they can and can't do. They can't wash dishes but they can play board games or collect stamps, coins, or baseball cards. They aren't allowed to do much that requires physically moving about. I noticed that most of the men collect stamps and coins, since they are allowed to do this on the Sabbath.

[lepke]

This is one of the most interesting threads ever on this board. Three cheers for Schnauzer.

[albion]

May 10, 2014 20:30:32 GMT schnauzer said:

May 10, 2014 20:14:06 GMT lepke said:

Those are interesting ideas...

Adventist also believe in wearing simple jewelry, just a plain wedding ring and watch. EAR/ONS usually left the expensive jewelry and only took the more simple stuff. Ellen G white didn't believe in wearing ear rings. EAR/ONS really liked to take one ear ring from the victims.

Schnauzer, this is far and away the best theory relating to the poem that I have seen. It is an amazing find!

[Relentless]

May 11, 2014 18:56:25 GMT albion said:

May 10, 2014 20:30:32 GMT schnauzer said:

Adventist also believe in wearing simple jewelry, just a plain wedding ring and watch. EAR/ONS usually left the expensive jewelry and only took the more simple stuff. Ellen G white didn't believe in wearing ear rings. EAR/ONS really liked to take one ear ring from the victims.

Schnauzer, this is far and away the best theory relating to the poem that I have seen. It is an amazing find!

Agreed, well done Schnauzer.

[schnauzer]

Rome to Regain Control of the World

The Prediction

For centuries papal Rome was involved in immorality, corruption, wars, torture, murder, and intrigue. Most Protestants and some Catholics of yesteryear therefore concluded that the papacy had to be the antichrist of prophecy, and with that opinion Ellen White agreed.

Ellen White identified the deadly wound of the beast (Rev. 13:3) as being the papacy's loss of power in 1798 at the hands of Napoleon Bonaparte. The later healing of that wound she predicted would be the papacy's regaining of its lost supremacy, and she claimed that Rome was actively trying to regain her lost power:



The Roman Church is far-reaching in her plans and modes of operation. She is employing every device to extend her influence and increase her power in preparation for a fierce and determined conflict to regain control of the world, to re-establish persecution, and to undo all that Protestantism has done.—Great Controversy, pp. 565, 566, bold added.

God's word has given warning of the impending danger; let this be unheeded, and the Protestant world will learn what the purposes of Rome really are, only when it is too late to escape the snare. She is silently growing into power. . . . Stealthily and unsuspectedly she is strengthening her forces to further her own ends when the time shall come for her to strike. All that she desires is vantage ground, and this is already being given her. We shall soon see and shall feel what the purpose of the Roman element is. Whoever shall believe and obey the word of God will thereby incur reproach and persecution.—Ibid., p. 581.



Really? Is the Vatican bent on regaining control of the world and rekindling persecution?

Before we continue, one thing should be pointed out. Daniel 8:24 says that the little horn's "power shall be mighty, but not by his own power." Through the centuries the papacy controlled the minds of men by getting others to do her bidding. While her power was indeed "mighty," it was only so because of the might of the kings and nations that supported her. Thus, any regaining of its previous power would likely involve control of world leaders and their policies, not direct ownership of the entire globe.



This might be far fetched, but the comment about the mafia lord's wife and also the St Christopher medal left to a victim, could be because Ellen G White hated Rome and didn't liked Catholic's.

[jigisup]

Yes, schnauzer's theory of a connection to the SDA Church might lead to a major breakthrough in this case. I am reminded of a college friend who hated his overbearing mother for raising him SDA -- no movies allowed, separation from non-SDA friends, no McDonalds, etc.

I would not paint the entire faith with one brush; after all, Loma Linda University Medical Center in Southern California, which is outstanding in the health care field, is a product of the SDA Church. However, the SDA Church does have more than its share of refugees from its insular, millennialist, lifestyle-controlling culture.

leavingsda.com/adventist-exclusiveness-1/

leavingsda.com/adventist-exclusiveness-2/

[jigisup]

One of the key phrases of the SDA culture is "The Great Disappointment," which refers to the failed prophecy of the return of the Messiah in 1844. It is interesting that the word "disappointment" occurs four times in the "Mad is the word" sixth-grade letter purported to be from EAR-ONS' hand.

Check out this "you might be an SDA list:" www.buzzfeed.com/ashleyperez/31-signs-you-grew-up-seventh-day-adventist

Funny and, perhaps, insightful

[schnauzer]

I have seen that link before, that's a great one to see, especially for people who don't know much about SDA church , Thank you, jigisup